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  • andin,

    I’m still chuckling to myself about having my computer supporting the RWC.
    thanks Gio, and now this, hilarious.
    I’m unsnipped, lets say if my balls had a brain with a care for their conjugal integrity, they’d be thanking Time.
    My other brain probably has a more complex take on it.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1175 posts Report Reply

  • Pat Hackett,

    What are the typical objections by men to getting it done?

    Because I was under 30 at time, the Family Planning Clinic deemed that I required a counselling session first. The questions (and my answers) I recall were:

    What if you want more children one day?
    I already have a boy and a girl. They only make two kinds.
    What if you get divorced?
    Then my kids will probably need me more, not less.
    What if you re-marry and your new partner wants children?
    Then that is too bad for her. I've already got my kids.
    What if one of your children die?
    I can't bring them back. And I can't go through my life thinking that the worst is going to happen - that I am going to get divorced or one of my kids is going to die.

    Auckland • Since Oct 2010 • 95 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler, in reply to Pat Hackett,

    Because I was under 30 at time, the Family Planning Clinic deemed that I required a counselling session first.

    I was 27, and based on things I had read here-and-there wondered if this would be an issue. In the end the doctor in question (Stephen Calvely, working from the Onehunga medical centre) thought it was a great idea, and enthused about his previous patient taking the responsible step at 23.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 801 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    What if one of your children die?

    This was a shit of question, yeah. We were sitting there in the counselling session with our three month old daughter in the Plunket car seat next to us, and they were like, "Well, what if she dies, hmm? Have you thought about that?" And I know what they were trying to do, but it was like getting a kitten after your cat dies.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    You see, us blokes with the Big V had the wierd idea that it might rebalance the blood flow a wee bit from THE extremity towards the thinking region. We had the desire to ensure that both talk to each other. Caring...sharing...SNAGish like.

    Not sure if it worked but it was the thought that counts.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1491 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Emma Hart,

    And I know what they were trying to do, but it was like getting a kitten after your cat dies.

    A heck of a lot of cat lovers do get a kitten after the old one dies. Not immediately, but love of cats can be general.

    I'm quite nervous about making the big call of future permanent sterility. I'd probably find it easier if I had an ample supply of the, er, good stuff stashed away in a sperm bank. It's not unknown for people to lose their entire family. It's only one car crash away. Or a total estrangement. Could also be an option for my wife if I died, and she decides another child would be nice.

    I could have a heck of a lot of life left in me, maybe another 50 reasonable years. Anything could happen, a big fuck-off war, some horrendous natural disaster, or something horrid but quite frequent like breast cancer. These things do happen...

    Some people might know for sure that they never ever will want any more children. I don't.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8316 posts Report Reply

  • Pat Hackett, in reply to BenWilson,

    Fair enough. There is also the risk that you could get your wife pregnant again. How does she feel about that?

    Auckland • Since Oct 2010 • 95 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to BenWilson,

    It’s not unknown for people to lose their entire family. It’s only one car crash away.

    Ack! Stop giving me reality checks, damn it!

    (PAS is seemingly filled with people calmly accepting doom, who all read dystopian sf and liveblog the apocalypse [Tiso, I'm looking beadily at you]. Where my denial/sublimation peeps at? :) )

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3628 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Danielle,

    [Tiso, I'm looking beadily at you]

    Sorry, still adjusting to the idea that I need to add my bottled manhood to the emergency checklist.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7351 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    I need to add my bottled manhood to the emergency checklist

    Just don't store it with your emergency pina colada mix.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3628 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Danielle,

    You took it there?

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2209 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Bart, I'm just a harsh bitch. I applaud men who get vasectomies because there is such a general sense of "unmanly" about it. So good on all of you. It isn't talked about much, and it should be. Still doesn't mean it's a big deal though. That's why I liked Paul's piece so much. It puts it in exactly the right place, in the scheme of things. And that's what should be discussed more - how relatively simple a procedure it is, and how much of a boon it can prove to be. And as for any discussion around pain, and pissing contests? I've always like a good pissing contest. I spent weeks at a time in cars with my brothers and father, on the side of the road, whilst they peed over gorges, and similar such geographic magnificences. All in the name of who could pee the furthest.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3123 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Paul Williams,

    You took it there?

    Someone already mentioned goatse in this thread. It's not often I get a chance to feel relatively prim while talking about jizz storage.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3628 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,

    And I forgot to say:

    Of two childbirths - one long with a posterior baby and one fast, furious and unmedicated - attempting to place the catheter before the epidural was far-and-away the most painful part.

    Since I had no labour to speak of, I thought perhaps my catheter-cold-sweats were just a sign of my essential wimpishness. I'm glad (in a way) to hear that it actually *is* hugely fucking painful. Uh, woo.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3628 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Danielle,

    That's fair, imagine this thread at kiwiblog... wait, don't.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2209 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Paul Williams,

    That's fair, imagine this thread at kiwiblog... wait, don't.

    No fair, that's like saying "don't think about elephants". But I suspect that team would have no trouble filling a supertanker with jizz in no time.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8316 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Since reading the questions they might ask, I’ve been playing out the scenario in my head. I imagine something along these lines.

    “Since the little buggers could barely swim prior to the assisted procreation we received with the helpful input of Demi-gods Richard and Mary, and the fact the only reason I’m here at all is due to our third lovely daughter, snowball, whose very existence makes me believe in miracles, I think we’re good”.

    As to the bottled manhood, up until recently we had “other options”. And while my comment here may seem otherwise glib, that whole process and decision making was not something we took at all lightly.

    Someone did say this was a Mens Group, right?

    ETA:

    Where my denial/sublimation peeps at? :)

    I'm assuming that's not along party lines, so I could join. ;-)

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to recordari,

    I have to admit I think that all us wimmins should be quiet and let the men talk about men things. It's a bit like going in the bush, and seeing a deer. You have to very, very quiet, as it scares so easily. And I've always wanted to know what mens talk about when women aren't around. Oh, hang on. What am I saying? That would be the copyright thread, wouldn't it?

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3123 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to recordari,

    I think you want the third door down the stairs on the right... or is it left.

    That’s fair, imagine this thread at kiwiblog… wait, don’t.

    No fair, that’s like saying “don’t think about elephants”. But I suspect that team would have no trouble filling a supertanker with jizz in no time.

    Is Buster on their team?

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1175 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    I have to admit I think that all us wimmins should be quiet and let the men talk about men things.

    No really, that wouldn't be nearly as much fun. Confessionals are much better when wimmins are involved.

    What did I just say?

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    Oh you'll be wanting the group discussions.
    That's in the the main reception area, Sir.
    Right this way.....

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1175 posts Report Reply

  • Whoops,

    Very timely - thanks Mr B.

    My wife just (monday night) gave birth to our second, and most likely last, child...

    Have been thinking about this op quite a bit, especially motivated by seeing the, ah, business end of the process (according to obstebutchertrician because of complications from previous c-section she got to a into a situation where 1-in10 babies die... so things got pretty brutal VERY quickly).

    here • Since Apr 2007 • 103 posts Report Reply

  • Rhys, in reply to Martin Lindberg,

    Heh. One of my life’s weirdest physical sensations was having the catheter pulled out. Not really painful – just weird.

    One of my life's weirdest physical sensations was peeing bubbles the first time after having the foley pulled out.

    South Belleknowes • Since Jul 2009 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Kennaway,

    My Dad had the big cut in the early seventies, and a few years later ended up in a feature article about the subject in the Weekend Herald. I must look it up - it has one of the few family portraits ever taken of us by a professional photographer.

    He spent a few days after the op talking in a high voice just to freak out the guys at his work..

    Western Bays • Since Feb 2007 • 79 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    the trouble with those replacement children is that you can never train them right again. last one was an athlete, this one "throws like a girl" and can't be taken back under warranty.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2024 posts Report Reply

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