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  • Heather Gaye,

    <i>judging by the rapid recycling of decade defining looks over the last few years, won't the naughties retro parties start happening in 2010 or '11?????</i>
    We'll be having 2020's retro parties in 2018.

    Morningside • Since Nov 2006 • 533 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    There actually was a another room at The Wag as I recall, but it wasn't cooler or bigger than the main room, just another room. Shitty little club owned by some guys from the Gulf who paid nobody, with Chris O'Sullivan from Blue Rondo a la Turk (now that is a forgotten band) fronting, us included. Saw some incredible stuff there though...Neneh Cherry Djing, Rip Rig & Panic, Todd Terry, Wild Bunch, Jazzy B, before the hits, lots of indie bands when the scenes were merging, . It was great in the pre House days..the gritty funk era before the pills took over.

    jumped into the beamer / went down to the Wag / Winston on the door didn't give me any ag

    (c)Derek Bolland 1988

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Tom Beard,

    emo = goth - vampires

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report

  • Ben Austin,

    For some reason I've had this discussion many a time - in my set "emo" is deemed to be an insult or a put down, no doubt due to us all having spent far too much time lazing about on the internet. I've never actually met a real emo, although I've known many goths, and frankly I think i prefer goths, no doubt due to my natural conservatism.

    Anyway, if you want to see how deep this argument (insult vs. subculture) check out the Wikipedia Emo talk pages.

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report

  • Ben Austin,

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report

  • Rogan Polkinghorne,

    The funny thing about 'emo' as it's used today is that it's a far cry from what 'emo' meant when it was originally bandied around in the late 90's - early 00's; 'emo' comes from 'emotional rock', which back then was bands like Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate etc, a scene that grew quite large in the U.S but never really established itself down here.

    The 'original' emo bands sound nothing like the bands that get labelled with it now...they were decidedly mopey and whingy, but waaaay more folky than the punked up pop music of My Chemical Romance et al.

    Funny how things like that change eh?

    A-town • Since Nov 2006 • 105 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    The 'original' emo bands sound nothing like the bands that get labelled with it now

    like techno....wonderful electronic soul music from Detroit becomes horrendous euro dance from Belgium..thankfully reclaimed of late.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    The 'original' emo bands sound nothing like the bands that get labelled with it now

    Yeah, I remember that emo period. I was kind of into it back then, but couldn't quite work out how Jimmy Eat World emo begat Fall Out Boy emo.

    As for cutting, back in the '90s I had a flatmate who had just got over a major cutting phase. She was a serious cutter, going right down to muscle, and leaving some really major scars on her arms and legs. She was fucked up when she did it, but eventually sorted her stuff out.

    It's laughable looking at some LiveJournal emo bragging about the little scratches s/he has inflicted upon herself.

    Emo's just another form of goth. There's nothing wrong with it, but anyone subscribing to the emo culture shouldn't take themselves too seriously. I mean, I know I get my kicks laughing at the emos in Aotea Square.

    P.S. Pete from Fall Out Boy is hot!

    Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report

  • Joanna,

    P.S. Pete from Fall Out Boy is hot!

    Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 746 posts Report

  • 3410,

    Blue Rondo a la Turk (now that is a forgotten band)

    Remembered by me primarily for the 58 times that I thought, whilst crate-diggin', that I'd found a Dave Grusin record.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.

    Wait - he's in a band or something as well?!

    Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report

  • Paul Campbell,

    oh you're all so silly - every age cohort needs their own thing, it has to be different, recognisable and the oldsters have to pooh-pooh it (see you're doing your part ...) .... it's just the way of the world and part of growing up and becoming separate from your parents (and older siblings)

    oh yeah and as the parent of (non-emo) Dunedin teenagers I can tell you there are too emos in Dunedin

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report

  • Jackie Clark,

    I'm with Paul on this one - and a few others as well. Isn't EMO just a variation of goth of something? I'm never sure, and I don't care. But all young people need to rebel at some stage, to some degree. Oh and the 80's? I love the way I dressed in the 80's. I was in my twenties, and ultra stylish. My crowd never thought we looked ridiculous. Wouldn't wear the stuff now, since leg warmers look a little silly on people d'un certain age, but god, I do miss huge earrings, and leggings, and huge jerseys, and hair bundled on the top of my head...............oh and tops that slip off one shoulder.............

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report

  • merc,

    Two words, stirrup jeans.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • Jackie Clark,

    oh merc, yes. And even better, stirrup Adidas trackpants. The blue or black ones with the white stripes down the side. Very tight, very sexy. Bloody marvellous.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report

  • Emma Hart,

    Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.

    Wait - he's in a band or something as well?!

    Women, raising the tone...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report

  • merc,

    Jackie, I am wearing stirrup Adidas black track pants right now, to raise the tone. I cut the stirrups off though and I'm due a new pair, new stocks available at Westygate September.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • brian,

    good column but like so much that passes under my nose these days, I just think 'even this will pass' and you know what? often before I have finished saying it, stuff like emo, gen-x/y/who knows, etc etc has passed or is passe. I have learned not to care. But one thing does puzzle me about nz music and that is why is everyone soooo scared to call it for what it so often is - a load of totenham, a great steaming pile of hotspur. I mean Bic Runga puhlease one good album (her 1st) then downhill faster than Eddie the Eagle. But does anyone call her on it? No way. Far too busy being supportive. Bic should stop taking those pills or if she's not taking any she should go out and get some and a good rhyming dictionary - one that doesn't rhyme moon with june - while she's at it. And not only Bic but Shihad as well. Those fellas wouldn't know a hook if it fell off the wall and crushed them - I could go on but what is the point? No-one gives a rat's anyway they're all too busy being 'supportive'.

    Since May 2007 • 2 posts Report

  • Steve Barnes,

    Hippemos? Oh, that's next.
    Anypoo, I thought they were called Emus because of the head in the sand thing, or was that Ostripatheticene?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Rebecca Williams,

    totally agree with paul ... poor little emo kids, getting a bashing from their so-much-cooler-and-more-grown-up compatriots. careful, you'll give them something to cry about!

    i for one am willing to admit (now that i'm so big and grown up) that my main thing when i was an adolescent was that i was "different". why, how, what, when? i couldn't tell you now, as it was all in my head way back then, but it was very important to me at the time!

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 120 posts Report

  • Steve Reeves,

    Does "emo" have any link to Emo Philips? He is a US stand-up comedian who had "emo"-style hair, a "dreary" dead-pan delivery and

    Emo’s specialty was and is taking a routine quote and adding a bizarre—often psychotic--twist. (http://www.weht.net/WEHT/Emo_Philips.html)

    the "twist" bit of which also seems to fit the "emo" label.

    Near Donny Park, Hamilton… • Since Apr 2007 • 94 posts Report

  • Russell Clarke,

    So they're not the same as Elmos?

    Same hair, same voice, maybe they just need a tickle.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report

  • Nobody Important,

    I've just been informed that this aint a scene, it's an arms race. So I guess Emo is some sort of revisionist Reaganite movement ....

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report

  • Sodium Hydroxide,

    define adventurous...

    The desert of the real • Since May 2007 • 23 posts Report

  • Sodium Hydroxide,

    Bah, that was a reply to a post by Grant McDougall on page one, which i stupidly assumed would end up underneath his post, however, it obviously, has not

    The desert of the real • Since May 2007 • 23 posts Report

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