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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						When I was a little kid one of our favourite family walks was to the old Atawhai cemetery in Nelson. I loved poking around and pondering about the lives and deaths of the people buried there. The very <em>best</em> grave (at least from a small girl's viewpoint) was that of?
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						It's a long while since I had a good wander around a cemetery, but in Auckland I can recommend the old Symonds Street one, hidden among the trees below Grafton Bridge.  Old rural cemeteries are best of all, and reading the post I was reminded of <a href="http://collection.aucklandartgallery.govt.nz/collection/results.do?view=detail&amp;db=object&amp;id=2330" target="_blank"> this tremendous painting</a>.  The?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:28:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm going to be writing an opinion column for Metro magazine.</p></blockquote><p>Fantastic!  Congratulations.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:35:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I went for a walk and I felt better</p></blockquote><p>Well yes ... but it was 4 years after the walk. After my father died I walked over a significant chunk of central Auckland ... it wasn't the solution but I got a bit fitter.</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm one of those people who loves cemeteries. I used to skip <strong>the Morning Whiskey</strong> at my in-law's place</p></blockquote><p>Oh yes, cemeteries. Lovely pla....wait, what?</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<p>Quite a metrological post that...</p><blockquote><p>Fantastic! Congratulations.</p></blockquote><p>Very much what she said.</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						SAD was a frequent topic of discussion when I lived in Ithaca, New York, where the winters are long, the skies are gloweringly low, and the daylight is brutally short. My first winter there, it started snowing in October and kept it up till Mother's Day. The sheer novelty of?
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						SAD afflicts several in my whanau, including self. Lightboxes work for a couple of us: daily ingestion of D3 works for me (took until last year to discover this.) Exercise *can* help &ndash; but frequently there is neither energy nor motivation to do any...clinical depression also hounds some of the?
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						<p>Thanks for the tips Jolisa and Islander.  I keep forgetting to take the D3, but have a bottle in the cupboard, so will do so.</p><p>For what it's worth, when going through a particularly bad period of seasonal self-loathing, social networking is not always the best medicine.  It also requires?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:45:05 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>The SAD anthem:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmbT5XC-q0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmbT5XC-q0</a></p>
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				<title>Donald  Reid</title>
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						I lived in Alaska for a time. Now that's a place for SAD if ever there was one. Airlines reduce fares to Hawaii to give locals a chance to get out of the dark for a while. And there's lots and lots of craziness with guns.
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				<title>Edward  Siddle</title>
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						Cemeteries are wonderful!  I used to walk through one on my way to school in Dunedin (from Opoho to Logan Park) and that probably started me off.  They can be interesting places to visit when you're travelling as well.  Gives you an insight into the types of people who've lived?
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Hey, well done on the Metro column, Emma.  Might even persuade me to buy an issue!</p><p><strong>Jolisa</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>... when I lived in Ithaca, New York, where the... daylight is brutally short.</p></blockquote><p>It takes an amateur astronomer to know this, but actually the absolute latitude of Ithaca is lower than?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:09:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was reminded of  this tremendous painting. The online version hardly does justice to the huge original in which you can practically see the wind blowing through the long grass.</p></blockquote><p>...apparently inspired by the Mortuary Chapel* in the Barbadoes Street Cemetery in Chch &ndash; Sutton Rulez!<br /></snap!></p><p>*no longer there...</p>
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				<title>Karen White</title>
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						I used to live next door to Brompton Cemetary in London.  Loved walking through it.  Couldn't quite understand the Londoners who would use the old graves to sunbathe on in the summer, but sitting under the grand old trees reading a book (they provided park benches) was a great break?
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Most weirdly of all, loofahs were said to be the secret weapon against seasonal depression. A vigorous scrub all over in a hot bath spiked with baby oil was the prescription</p></blockquote><p>Curious, I looked up the winter bathing section of my American-published <em>Book of the Bath</em>:</p><blockquote><p>It is a good?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						A print of Sutton's "Nor'wester in the Cemetry" used to hang in the foyer of the assembly hall at AranuiHS &ndash; it was my first realisation that there was such a thing as ANZ art...
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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						Great cemetery paintings: an occasional series. Stanley Spencer <a href="http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=13675" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://collection.britishcouncil.org/exhibition/search/13/15696/object/39886" target="_blank">here</a>.
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Congratulations, Emma! That's fantastic. I must admit to wondering why all the congrats on Twitter. Now we know. Represent!
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>Well done on the Metro thing, I will make point of reading it, if not buying, as it isn't really aimed at my demographic or rather geographic</p><p>Yes, I understand the draw of cemeteries. The last one I had a good wander around was where my father was buried, we?</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I hope they don't come after people who sell those <a href="http://achewood.com/index.php?date=11202006" target="_blank">lamps</a>.
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						<p>Excellent philipmatthews! Have added those to the on-line collection...</p><p>Raymond A. Francis &ndash; not wrong ("if anyone still thinks the rural life is idyllic..."): I've never quite understood why anyone would. It *can* be immensely satsifying &ndash; but an idyll?</p><p>And, I guess it wasnt  Uncle Gordon who died?</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						I can't say I've ever felt cemeteries so much, but in Auckland I love to wander through the Otuataua stonefields. Down south I love walking the bleak coasts.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm going to be writing an opinion column for Metro magazine.</p></blockquote><p>Good old <em>Auckland Necro</em>. Trust some of that cemetery ambience will permeate your piece.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>"Down south I love walking the bleak coasts."</p><p>Heh! Depends on the day- sometimes those coasts are the livliest  places on earth-</p><p>And Emma &ndash; good to know you have a column in a significant publication (y'know, bit less than PAS, bit more than the SW Community Contact) but it?</p>
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				<title>Grace Dalley</title>
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						Yay Emma, well done on the Metro thing!
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				<title>Hannah</title>
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						I've just started taking "Tru2U Tart Cherry Juice" which a friend who was imsomniac rates very well &ndash; calls it the sleepy juice.  It has natural melatonin in it, which sounds like it may be of help to you. Take a glass before bedtime of juice (before brushing your teeth?
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<a href="http://www.cet.org/en/index.html?/en/who_we_are.htm" target="_blank">Dr Anna Wirz-Justice</a> was a kiwi girl (Christchurch?) and she went on to study Seasonal Affective Disorder.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>is that a torch in your trousers?</strong><br />it can now be revealed that shining light on "the-place-with-no-name" (the back of the knee) does not <a href="http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/08_02/bright_knees.shtml" target="_blank">adjust mammalian circadian clocks</a></p><p>but hearing words like this<br />(just on the RNZ news): <br />"a solar powered space yacht <br />has just set sail for Venus" <br />sure?</p>
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						<p>"the-place-with-no-name"??</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popliteal_fossa" target="_blank">Popliteal Fossa</a>!</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Popliteal Fossa!</p></blockquote><p>Nooooo.... and the bums don't follow ya round the room either I suppose &ndash; I'll never trust Peter Cook &amp; Dudley Moore again...<br />Sadly all I know comes from either them or Carl Barks Disney comics and Tintin...</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It has natural melatonin in it, which sounds like it may be of help to you.</p></blockquote><p>Hey Hannah. For a while I was taking a melatonin supplement to deal with my Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, and it was really helpful &ndash; with mood too, because I woke up feeling <em>awake</em>.?</p>
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						Feel jaunted & vaunted-
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Not too haunted... metro goes up a serious notch, IMHO. Congratulations!<br />Cemeteries: very life-affirming. The Akaroa cemetary is lovely on a summer's evening. Some of the other Peninsula cemeteries are lovely too: St Cuthbert's in Ohinetahi; the little cemetery by the wee stone church up Kaituna valley. None of these?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Popliteal Fossa!</p></blockquote><p>The very spot where the hapless rugby-playing John Bull, of Will Self's <em>Bull: A Farce</em>, mysteriously develops a vagina, which excites the passions of the doctor from whom he seeks help.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:18:15 +1200</pubDate>
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						Joe, of course I then misread your location line as "Down in the barn, behind my knees".
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						<blockquote><p>the winter days are brutally shorter in Christchurch than Ithaca.</p><p>So you can multiply your Ithaca SAD by about 102 per cent to reach how lousy poor Emma is feeling...</p></blockquote><p>Ouch. That is indeed brutal. (Also, dude: epic retroactive fail on persuading us that it would have been a good?</p>
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						<p>Belatedly: Emma, you magnificent badass!</p><p>I am pro-cemetery. One of my favourites contains the remains of a few relatives and is <a href="http://www.frasersfunerals.co.nz/orepuki.htm" target="_blank">here</a>. Windy and gorgeous (if the sun's out).</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I recall my Chch winters as exhilarating. The sky was enormous and mostly blue, and the air was dry and thus, miraculously, so was I.</p></blockquote><p>And that's how it should be, how it is in my mind when I think about Canterbury winters, and surely how it usually is. Cold,?</p>
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						<p>+1 on the congratulations, Emma.</p><p>And, in your piece, I loved this:</p><blockquote><p>On a rise (possibly a lesson learned about dead bodies and high water tables from the Barbadoes St cemetery), it's just huge crumbling gothic headstones to the horizon in every direction. Marble columns thicker than my thighs lie?</p></blockquote>
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						<p><strong>Tomb it may concern...</strong></p><blockquote><p>When I was about 11 we spent a year in Salem, Connecticut (about 42 degrees N to Christchurch's 42 S :). There was a walk we sometimes took: down a lane, alonside a stone wall; over a stile, and then down a path through a forest.?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 17:30:44 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>another Google Earth overlay<br />&ndash; Gogol Earth so we can perceive the <br />fantastical that coexists...</p></blockquote><p>Or we could call it <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius" target="_blank">Orbis Tertius</a> :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 18:32:31 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Rob, as Thomas Gray* said"<br />"Beneath those rugged elms, that yew-tree's shade,<br />Where heaves the turf in many a mouldering heap,<br />Each in his narrow cell for ever laid,<br />The rude Forefathers of the hamlet sleep."</p></blockquote><p>A passing similarity there to Smif-n-Wessun's<br /><em>Bucktown</em> :</p><p>__Another murderer, just another prankster<br />Rude?</p>
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						<p>Rob, I'm really tempted to go and see if I can find your mythical cemetery in person. But virtually speaking, do you think it might be <a href="http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/conewlondon/cemeteries/FoxCem.html" target="_blank">this one</a>? </p><p>Also, am wondering what took you to Salem CT... it's an out-of-the-way sort of place. The sort of place where [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem,_Connecticut|pirates hide?</p>
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						Entering <a href="http://photos.upmystreet.com/images/photos/55/30/553089_cc5c4de4.jpg" target="_blank">this graveyard</a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deiniolen" target="_blank">Deiniolen</a> where I used to live was in its own way like confronting war graves, row upon row of grey slate faces sacrificed in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_industry_in_Wales#Workers" target="_blank">battle for a living</a>.  It says a lot about the present state of the slate mines in the region that there?
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						<blockquote><p>I don't seem to have the same connection with the past &ndash; no idea where other than immediate forebears have had their ashes scattered or bodies interred, and no real itch to find out.</p></blockquote><p>Oddly, I was born hundreds of miles from my family's traditional territory, but since then our?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Oddly, I was born hundreds of miles from my family's traditional territory, but since then our habitual wanderings after jobs and education and houses have brought me to a point where I now live three blocks from the house where my great-grandfather lived 160 years ago . . .</p></blockquote><p>That's?</p>
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						I do a bit of cemetery tourism. An aim of my OE was to see Marx's grave in London's Highgate Cemetery. I don't pass by Waimate without dropping by to say hello to Norm Kirk, and my mother's family plot near by. Ancestor Richard Davis has a handsome old grave?
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						<blockquote><p>My great-great-granny lived in Ferry Road (not at the Holy Smoke address), and married her second husband in a civil ceremony in the front parlour in 1862.</p></blockquote><p>She wasn't Caroline Webb née Adams, was she? Because that would be weird.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not a genealogist, but that's a group that understands the fascination of cemeteries.</p></blockquote><p>In that respect, the cemetery in Waipu is quite fascinating &ndash; it's both a graveyard and a genealogical map.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...where my great-grandfather lived 160 years ago, which is now the Holy Smoke restaurant in Ferry Road.</p></blockquote><p>I had lunch there last sunday<br />and it was very good...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>She wasn't Caroline Webb née Adams, was she? Because that would be weird.</p></blockquote><p>Elizabeth Overend, later Moss, née Smith, as it happens. Disappointingly her headstone's vanished from Woolston cemetery. I take some comfort from Ferry Road being long enough, and Christchurch large enough, for a whole heap of things to?</p>
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						Gio's remark about the Waipu cemetery reminded me of a small family one, on the Otago Peninsula. There's a few dozen bodies buried there, on a fairly steep slope. It's not full yet &ndash; room for more. BUT &ndash; it truly made me feel good when I first saw it,?
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						<p>The Smiths, on plagiarism, Keats, Yeats and <em>Cemetery Gates</em>.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGJWb9OPug&amp;feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGJWb9OPug&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And that's how it should be, how it is in my mind when I think about Canterbury winters, and surely how it usually is. Cold, yes, but sharply, almost painfully clear. And that's fine, I don't mind the kind of bright cold you can feel on your eyeballs.</p></blockquote><p>After a?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The Smiths . . .</p></blockquote><p>Not your average genealogist's favorite band. Like the Joneses, Taylors, and, I'm sorry to say, the Browns, you can get stuck forever sorting who is and who isn't who.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>These days, I pretty much only go to Ashvegas to visit the dead relatives.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, so we were driving down the road a bit back, and Karl was puzzled as to why there were so many cars outside the crematorium. I said, "Because it's Mothers' Day." He was even more?</p>
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						<p>@Jolissa- gosh that could be the same graveyard. <br />But only if the trees have advanced considerably; the grasses been cleared or shaded out; there's pirate gold under the third headstone on the left; there are two stone lions prowling in the trees- and dreams are to be believed. <br />Because the?</p>
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						<p>Has anyone mentioned the fabulous Karori Cemetery? Among its many delights is a bronze statue of <a href="http://www.antarctic.org.nz/pages/projects/mrschippy.php<br />">Mrs Chippy</a>, the cat taken along on Shackleton's <em>Endurance</em> expedition by the carpenter Harry McNeish.</p>
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						Hi Carol.  Link broke.  Try <a href="http://www.antarctic.org.nz/pages/projects/mrschippy.php" target="_blank">here</a>.
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						<p>Well, I am on the other side of the world from where all but my immediate forebears would be interred so I don't get the hankering.  Dearly Beloved has started looking into her family background but we're a long way from her family's resting places, too.</p><p>I know I have?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It takes an amateur astronomer to know this, but actually the absolute latitude of Ithaca is lower than Christchurch.</p><p>In other words, the winter days are brutally shorter in Christchurch than Ithaca.</p><p>So you can multiply your Ithaca SAD by about 102 per cent to reach how lousy poor Emma?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote>Actually, David in the long tradition of internet pedantry, there is more to it than just latitude. Ithaca stands at the south end of a glacial valley, and from downtown (Cornell is "on the hill") this can shorten the effective period of daylight, as the sky does not subtend a?</blockquote>
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						<p>I see the <a href="http://www.ithacafestival.org/" target="_blank">Ithaca Festival</a> is about to start and put paid to any seasonal disaffection...<br />The "singing in the Rain" theme is a good umbrella for it...<br /><em>Angry Mom Records featuring DJ Gourd</em> sound  fun...</p>
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