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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:03:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I've been trying to come up with words for you, Emma. But in the end, I'm <a href="http://hypem.com/#!/item/13h27/Mavis+Staples+-+You+Are+Not+Alone" target="_blank">letting Mavis Staples do the talking</a>.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:03:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						And I just spent five minutes weeping helplessly at my desk. Touché, Brown.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:09:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p>Well, you made us all cry. Seems fair. </p><p><br />(For the record, there's no way i am clicking on that link of Russell's.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Lovely post, Emma.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:16:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<frantically wiping away tears> Look, can the human race find a cure for death already? I'm beginning to get quite exasperated about this issue.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:18:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>RachelR</title>
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						Well damn. That has to be one of the best things I've read. Thank you for writing it Emma, I'm so sorry for your mother's death.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:19:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<p>Beautiful.</p><p>I only met your Mum a couple of times but her strength, dignity and compassion were obvious and I admired her greatly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:22:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>sashaying your way down the catwalk in your seventies and four-inch heels</q></p><p>I so, so love this.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:30:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<p>I have to go out, Emma, so I'll write something longer this afternoon, but darling, our darling.<br /> Oh, how it hurts, how it stings, how it strengthens us and makes us more human. How it shapes us and turns us. <br />All my love. All of it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:35:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I so, so love this.</p></blockquote><p>Purple suede spike-heeled boots. So awesome. The funeral director is supposed to be sending me a copy of the dvd, and when they do I'll upload the tribute video. It was great. People were laughing so hard, and then behind me my cousin's daughter started?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:54:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						What a stunning tribute Emma.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:05:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						Emma &ndash; you unwrapped a part of me that is right back there the day we all came together in Mum's little flat the day after she died. Expecting her to pop out of the kitchen, knife in one hand &ndash; mid-preparation for a meal &ndash; "Hello, love!" But there?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:06:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>That is just absolutely lovely Emma.  We are currently going through a family illness, with a possible terminal outcome, and while I'm not the one sitting doing crosswords, the scenario you described really struck a chord (and started the water works).  A secret chord even.</p><p><q>The fourth, the fifth<br />The?</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:06:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lara</title>
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						Just waving away people saying "I'm fine. I'm fine. I just need tissues for a minute." What a beautiful tribute to your Mum.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:21:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> Look, can the human race find a cure for death already? </q></p><p>What a horrid thought &ndash; sorry if this is not the time or the place, but grief is a good and healthy thing.  Wanting to wish away that all things have their time &ndash; and all things have their?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:58:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Beautiful beyond words (and what words). Arohanui
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:14:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Oh, Emma.  I'm like so many of your friends here &ndash; I have tears running down my face, for you, for your family, for your mum, and for the beauty of your writing.  It is a fine tribute, and it shouts loud and clear, this woman was deeply loved by?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:17:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Then I came back home to Christchurch, and Mum, it was so hard.</q></p><p>And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where I broke down. Such a lovely, tender, thoughtful piece Emma &ndash; thank you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:19:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I just love "You?d?ve" as a word, I try and use it whenever I can &ndash; probably causes generations of English teachers to cringe, but then also remark "well at least you got the apostrophes right"
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:20:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>I so, so love this.</em></p><p>Purple suede spike-heeled boots. So awesome.</q></p><p>The boots, too, naturally. But I was thinking of your words, and the order in which you placed them.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:43:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q> Like we always did, I?d get stuck two clues from the end, but you weren?t there to ask. </q></p><p>She is. You just can't hear her.</p><p>I have written before about my grandmothers, and the role they played in my life, and not a day goes by when I don't think?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:45:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<p><q> clever and witty without ever being cruel.</q><br />A difficult balance indeed. </p><p>Very sorry to hear about your mum, Emma. You certainly have written a beautiful tribute.</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Emma, I'm sorry for your loss.  And I think your tribute is beautiful.</p><p>Craig, I understand what you're saying, but I understand Danielle's feeling too.  I lost an uncle and an aunt within a few months of each other last year.  They were both elderly and significantly disabled; I'm sure?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:21:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Hugs Emma, anytime you need one I'll send it ... and one on the way now because I need to hug you &ndash; even if only virtually.</p><p>Thank you for sharing your sadness.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p>Wonderful, wonderful words, Emma.</p><p>I didn't know your mum but I shall be thinking a lot about her today.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Craig, I get what you?re saying in the abstract and might even agree with it, but then you get down to specifics and it?s all over for me. Once someone tells the story of that person that they loved and who is gone, I don?t ever want death to happen!?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:31:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Oh, Emma. Heartbreak. Grief is a weight. And a wait. Take your time with it.</p><p>And I hope you keep talking to your Mum. For comfort, and because sometimes, she'll answer you. In your head, or in dreams, but she will.</p><p><br />I think I may have told this story hereabouts?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:34:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>You've cured my dry eyes and blocked nose, Emma, thank you. You've also been missed, during this break, and there was me thinking you were probably sunning it up.</p><p>Sorry for your loss. </p><p>RIP Audrey.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:35:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<em>Love</em> that story,  just love it! Whatever it was, it happened, it was real. One of the mysteries....Gorgeous!
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:37:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Lovely thoughts, Emma.   A pity my mother and your mother never met--she was a little Jewish lady who dyed her hair into her nineties and rang me, with coy allusions to boyfriends staying over, in her eighties.</p><p>arohanui</p>
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				<title>Nat Websta</title>
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						<p>I'm crying at my desk... oh that we could all be so eloquent in our greif.</p><p>My greatest sympathy for your loss, Emma.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						There's no reason the mind can't cause us to see things during extreme grief and stress. It's probably a good thing, even, so long as it doesn't keep happening, it could help relieve the strain. I had two independent people approach me after my last funeral oration, saying they saw?
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>"This is where we really go when we die &ndash; into the hearts of those who loved us."</p><p>&ndash; a writer whose work I don't normally like -</p>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p><q>Once someone tells the story of that person that they loved and who is gone, I don?t ever want death to happen! </q></p><p>Oh, I agree. And yet... we can't tell that story, in that way, until we know how and where it ends. And in telling such stories, we understand?</p>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						After my mother died, in one of the days before we finally left to go to our individual homes, my sister-in-law came and said "I dreamed of your mother last night!" She was elated. She'd seen Mum and my grandma, sitting in Kensington, having afternoon tea. (Mum was planning a?
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				<title>sally jones</title>
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						<p><q>He passes me in the street. It?s just something that happens. I don?t worry about it.</q><br />I'm glad you don't worry...</p><p>My father was a Kingfisher watching over me from the exact same spot on a wire every afternoon when I was busting a gut rushing to finish my thesis.?</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I never talk about it here, really, but I'm spooky. Just so you know. It's why I don't find death horrifying, or talk of dead people sitting in a room unnerving. Megan's right, Emma. Keep talking to your Mum. She won't talk back straightaway, but if you listen really carefully,?
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						Thank you so much for letting us know her, Emma. You inherited more from your mother than her great legs.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I'm spooky</q></p><p>a bit secret service</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:41:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:43:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:50:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						mum's the word, in more ways than one
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:02:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<q>It's like I carry your death around inside me, and it is so heavy. Don't worry, it's not like I'm sad all the time, or I cry, or I think about it all the time. I'm just always aware of it. I'm still working out how to live my life?</q>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>Oh Emma,<br />I started reading your post at work this arvo, thinking 'Great, long time since I've read something from Emma' but I only got about 3 sentences in before I realised I couldn't go on without tears streaming down my cheeks.  (Not a good look for a 50-something cynic).?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:55:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						The human condition. Nothing like the honesty of it to connect us all.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:17:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>I cannot write eloquently about the death of those I love: it just hurts too much.</p><p>Emma, your wonderful paean for your mother &ndash; because it <em>is</em> a triumph song and a praise chant- moved me beyond glib words. It moved me into that dark place I never want to?</p>
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						<p>Craig, you come from a very different perspective: grief, for me &amp; mine, is not at all healthy ? to the contrary, it kills.</p><p>What I deeply appreciate about this ongoing thread is the different perspectives all of us mortal humans have, so please dont see this comment as any kind?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:09:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Oh, not at all.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:47:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>Deepest sympathies Emma, and thank you for introducing us to your mother. <br />Im glad you were able even to just sit with her as death approached. And prepare in some way for the inevitable. </p><p>Something we as children did not have the privilege of doing.<br />All we got at my?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:53:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Thank you, everyone, for your very kind words.</p><blockquote><p>Im glad you were able even to just sit with her as death approached. And prepare in some way for the inevitable.</p></blockquote><p>This was the up side of the cancer (not, possibly, a sentence that's been used very often). Mum had time?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:51:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>You?d?ve liked your funeral.</q><br />My mother's was only a few weeks ago. I sent pictures to someone who couldn't make it, someone who'd long ago lost both of her parents, and who has a habitually interesting take on most things. When we next caught up she said "That was terrible?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:18:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tristan</title>
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						<p>I'm glad I saved my mini Picnic Bar for the end or morning tea I need a little morsel of solice after that. </p><p>Emma you write comedy and tradgey so well. Thank you for sharing with us.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:19:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						Condolences to you, too, Joe.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:34:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p><q>She took her last curtain call in October, in Who Wants to Be a Hundred?</q></p><p>Beautiful. Quite the elegant epitaph, in fact.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>My mother's was only a few weeks ago.</q></p><p>Sorry to hear that Joe. Thinking of you.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Wow, Joe, that is quite a different perspective. Everyone just assumed that Mum would have pall-bearers, I thought it was pretty much universal. With Mum that might partially have been because she had three six-foot-plus sons. She'd said, "Well I have three sons and a son-in-law," and there was still...?
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p>Sorry to hear about your mum Joe.  </p><p><q>I explained that it was a privilege that we'd requested,</q></p><p>A very close family friend requested I be asked through her surviving partner to be a pallbearer.  It is one of the most humbling and rewarding, albeit grief-stricken, experiences in my life.  It?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:08:22 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>It is one of the most humbling and rewarding, albeit grief-stricken, experiences in my life.</q></p><p>I found the physical impact quite beyond words</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q>It is one of the most humbling and rewarding, albeit grief-stricken, experiences in my life.</q></p><p>I did a reading at every one of my grandparents' funerals, and I will always be thankful for that. If nothing else, it gave me a reason to not cry for the <em>whole</em> time.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:28:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						When my partner?s sister died she had a plain wooden coffin and partway through the service everyone came up to write or draw on it. She?d died suddenly and there had been little chance for last goodbyes so it was lovely to have this chance to send a final message.?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:59:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						So sorry to hear about your mum, Joe.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:36:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>It is proper for your parents to die before you and you to die before your children; it is when this is upset that things get really difficult</p><p>When my father died, three of us were sitting there, waiting. Fairly relaxed about the process, he hadn't been happy about losing?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:55:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q> (My partner apparently spent the entire service watching to see Bear didn?t catch fire.)</q></p><p>Aww, no fun. A Viking farewell by teddy bear is just the leaven of chaos I'd like for my final bow.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:39:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>Then we girls stood by the hearse with baskets of flowers from Mum?s garden so people could put a flower on the coffin and take a moment to say goodbye.</q></p><p>Everyone gets caught by some moment in this thread. I was OK up until this. That's lovely. My condolences Emma.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:29:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lara</title>
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						Sorry to hear about your Mum Joe. It's the not being able to talk to people that always gets me (proven by the fact that I'm sniffling as I write this).
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:49:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						It took me several years before I stopped, on the point of picking up the phone, thinking of giving a quick ring....
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:04:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>It?s the not being able to talk to people that always gets me . . .</q><br />Thanks Lara (and Jacqui, Sacha,  recordari &amp; Jackie). We figured that my niece should be the first to speak at my Mum?s send-off, as she?s an accomplished actor with real stage experience, and we might?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:50:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>DeepRed</title>
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						Condolences to the both of you Emma and Joe.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:55:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<p>What better eulogy could anyone wish for. Emma, that was lovely. My sincerest condolences to you and everyone who knew your mum and loved her.</p><p>As my parents get older and frailer I know how my mother felt when I was a teenager and I went out with friends. When?</p>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<p><q>...my niece </q></p><p>Reminded me of my dad's funeral (April last year), my 6-year-old niece was determined to read out few words she wrote down about her granddad and how she'd miss him. She seemed to be handling things pretty well, but there was still a suspicion she might change her?</p>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>Thank you so much for sharing emma, i just couldn;t even imagine being able to put words to things at this point. But is sounded like you gave your mum what she needed, and now you need to take time and give yourself what you need</p><p>and oh decorating the?</p>
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				<title>Boganette</title>
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						What a beautiful, stunning tribute. I'm crying at work and sending love your way.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:15:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q>Dad went out to la marseillaise for 2 reasons, it was a bit of a tune w=he liked and he knew it would confuse everyone</q></p><p>I've always threatened to send my Dad out to The Gambler. It's become such a thing that I may have to do it now.</p><p>Of?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:22:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p><q>I?ve always threatened to send my Dad out to The Gambler</q></p><p>I've looked, in vain, for this song mentioned previously in the thread, but it's not there. I know Kenny Rodgers sang it at his recent concert, but I've also seen it mentioned, <em>somewhere</em> , as the song somebody wanted?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:43:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						Is it this <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/16/?p=359#post359" target="_blank">one</a>?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:51:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						No. I'm a recent poster to this blog, and before that I was a lurker, but <em>four years ago</em>? Far too much of a computer scaredy-cat to hit "comments". (I used to read "Hard News" all the time, though.)
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						It's possible it's there, I just did a quick search.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:05:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jacqui Dunn</title>
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						<p>But even if it is there, I wouldn't have ever seen it. </p><p>It's more recent than that, anyway. </p><p>ETA: Unless you mean it was in Russell's post. But the above still applies....</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:06:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<q>Of course, I also said I would have my parents cremated and keep them in Marmite jars on my mantelpiece. I don?t have a mantelpiece, so i won?t be able to do that. Plus, OMG, CREEPY. </q> We had my Dad's ashes on Mum's mantelpiece in their plastic urn thingy for?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:49:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						When my much-loved* neighbour Bill Minehan died in 1996, he came back home after the embalming. He lay in a coffin for 2 days ? that coffin built by a very local carpenter (one of my more weird pieces of knowledge is how to measure a body for a coffin,?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:11:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>O, and what started my last post off-<br />WP played rinkydink piano, and there were lots of singsongs nextdoor over the 20 years he was my neighbour. His favourite was "The Gambler"</p><p>"You gotta know when to hold 'em<br />know when to fold 'em<br />know when to walk away and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:23:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Sorry I missed this from earlier Emma. Me sad too. </p><p>It's a bugger we only ever have one Mum.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:20:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						Kia Kaha, Emma.  Thank you for sharing.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:37:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p>So about 2 hours ago someone I cared deeply for died in my arms. Pretty much alone &ndash; still &ndash; in a strange country, fate &ndash; or maybe the mixture of Scotch and Valium I've been downing since &ndash; brought me here.</p><p>And suddenly the uncomprehending emotiveness and the forgetfulness?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:53:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Thanks for coming here, Rex. Glad it helped. Kia kaha.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:55:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						And also, don?'t forget that valium makes your scotch count two times. But you knew that.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:58:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Oh Rex, I'm so sorry.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:05:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Rex &ndash; I've had the person I love most *nearly* die in my arms (3&amp; 1/2 years ago) so I have a tiny hint of your suffering.<br />Please take good care of yourself now-</p><p>and Emma &ndash; this is an extraordinary thread and many many lurkers have found it both helpful?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:43:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Emma ? this is an extraordinary thread and many many lurkers have found it both helpful and resonating to their own experiences. Losing your Mum was great grief, but as a word-alchemist, you have transmuted your grief into the rarest pounemu. Thank you.</p></blockquote><p>I feel  <em>exactly</em>  what Islander says, and?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:01:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Goodness, islander, I am deeply humbled. Or the exact opposite of that. Alchemy is a lovely thought.</p><p>We are now at the lesser-discussed stage of grief known as Bureaucracy. I have a stack of will-related forms to fill in. I'm going back down to Mum's this weekend to help clear?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:58:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Hang in there mate, as it is said-<br />I'm trustee-executrix for one of my family &ndash; because of shares &amp; peculiarities, the estate <em>still</em> hasnt been wound up (a decade after the death.)<br />It is a mind&amp;health drain, and I never asked for it &ndash; but.</p><p>We do what we have to?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:42:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p>Thanks Russell, Emma, and Islander.</p><p>I've never been much for the "five stages of grief" theory. This situation went from "slighty off colour" to "deceased" in three days, and I had to make decisions on treatment, advised by what seemed like a confident doctor but who I now recall as?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:41:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						There are people that are dead to me now but still have lives of their own. There are those that no longer have lives but will live with me forever.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Hi Rex, take care mate. I don't know what you're going through, I don't &ndash; I've never lost anyone dear to me yet &ndash; but I know a bit about pain (and medicating with alcohol and other drugs). If you've got the chance so far, reach out and share the?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:59:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						If it's any consolation, Rex, and I suspect it may not be, I don't believe Kubler-Ross ever intended the five stages were to be taken so literally, nor did she mean them to be in order. I also think that she was saying that grief takes a lifetime. I prefer?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 07:56:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p>If this is becoming the general dealing-with death-via-the-internet thread (and thank you Emma, for writing it) ? firstly my sympathies to previous posters, especially Rex, I do so know that mood.</p><p>My brother-in-law committed suicide a few days ago. Pretty much out of the blue, he was in a bad?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:21:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh Robert. What a shit of a thing for everyone who loved him. And what you are doing is not "little". Your parents will need you and you will be there. That's a big thing, a valuable thing, a very important thing.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:27:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						So sorry to hear about that Robert.  The role one plays in these things is never easy, when you feel slightly removed.  Having some difficulty knowing where my own efforts are best placed in an 'In-law' situation right now.  The feelings of helplessness can be quite overwhelming at times.  'Being?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:50:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p><q> I have always believed that the grief we feel about the first person that we love who dies, melds and morphs into the grief we feel when the next person we love dies, and so on.</q></p><p>I don't quite know how this works, yet, but it sounds totally right.</p><p>Very?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:12:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						It's sort of like the more people who die around you, the further along you move in your generalised grieving experience, seems to be the case. Or to put it in other words, the moment we are born, our losses begin, and as we accumulate losses, so we gather experience?
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				<title>Lara</title>
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						Very sorry to hear of your respective losses Rex & Robert. Like George I've not lost anyone extremely close to me yet, but from other losses...that gaping hole is awful.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:38:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kate Hannah</title>
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						oh Emma. thank you. My mother died 8 and half years ago, aged 53. Breast Cancer. Her birthday is in a couple of days &ndash; one of the many days of the year that I carry a heavy weight and feel somewhat like the ancient mariner. So to read this?
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						Thanks so much for that Jackie. I kinda understand what Kubler-Ross was getting at, and on one level I think she?s right. On the another level entirely, I tend to want to hit things till they comply with my view of how they should be. Heaven help the PC that?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:32:30 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Danielle, Robert, thanks to you too. Robert, suicide is far from painless for those left behind. </q></p><p>And lest we forget Finn Higgins...</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Truth is, we know less about our own minds than the farthest reaches of the universe,</p></blockquote><p>Yeah but thats  inanimate and easy. Living and capable of incredible acts of self deception, well, you need a good looong break to be able to deal with that.<br />And it's derided as navel?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 05:13:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p>Just to add to what was already a bad month for my family (see previous comment), I've just learnt that my Uncle was killed in a car accident Tuesday night. This was unrelated to the quake (up Blenheim way)</p><p>My aunt survived, no major injuries apparently, but was trapped until?</p>
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						<p>Robert that is terrible.  So sorry for your loss.  The circumstances you describe are truly awful, as well as having to cope with everything going on in Christchurch.</p><p>I hope you have some good support around.</p><p>Take care.<br />Jack</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:51:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						Oh Robert, I am so terribly, terribly sorry that not only has your city recieved such cruel blows in the last few days with the deaths of so many people, and so much destruction just when people were starting to think about getting back on their feet, but that you?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:02:48 +1300</pubDate>
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						Thanks Jack & Jackie. Support is stretched thin in Chch at the moment (and thinner in my family who are distributed around the island at this point), but we'll get through it.
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