Up Front by Emma Hart

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Up Front: Oh, Grow Up

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  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to Sacha,

    You can teach Philosophy and get NCEA credit under other subject headings, such as Religious Studies and Social Sciences. My wife teaches Philosophy under the latter. There is an organisation NZ Teachers of Philosophy at http://nztap.net and apparently they are developing Philosophy NCEA Achievement Standards,

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    My thinking was more along the lines of the teaching of Basic Psychology including Communcaition Styles, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy and Rational Thinking adn linking this to practical aspects such goal setting, problem solving etc.

    Not Philosophy as such or the Philsophy of the Mind - the mind body question.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1157 posts Report Reply

  • johnno,

    One of the first indicators of approaching adulthood, was finding myself wearing a sensible coat to a gig, in case it rained on the way home. No, not an anorak.

    Next was looking around and finding I was with all the other dads near the mixing desk, stroking our beards and discussing the mix, watching the kids jumping around up front.

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 108 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    You can teach Philosophy and get NCEA credit under other subject headings, such as Religious Studies and Social Sciences.

    Yes, my son will get his first Religious Studies credits this year because of this. Which to me makes it even more ridiculous. Religious Studies is a more acceptable academic discipline than Philosophy? Really?

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4285 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to DexterX,

    There is also basic Psychology taught in NZ schools (eg Avondale College, Nayland College) with NCEA assessment at all three levels.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    New Zealand schools are more interesting places than when I went to school....

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • Tess Rooney, in reply to Emma Hart,

    It possibly came about because of intergrated faith schools. Religious studies is a core subject at Catholic schools so perhaps they got NCEA qualifications for it. But I'm only guessing here.

    Also yes, philosophy should absolutely be taught at school.

    Greymouth • Since May 2009 • 249 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    You can do Philosophy at school in Australia (or Victoria, at any rate). My daughter did it and loved it. Led to some great conversations at home too. Talking about Nietzsche with 16 year olds is fun.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2906 posts Report Reply

  • Brent Jackson, in reply to Emma Hart,

    My son dropped Philosophy this year (year 12), because although he loved the classroom discussions on morals, ethics, and other "big" questions, he was annoyed at having to do Religous Studies and Art History in order to get NCEA credits. I've been told that change is coming, but it'll be too late for my kids ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 343 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    I have a philosophy degree. I suppose that makes me marginally more able to deal with certain questions. I felt a little grown up when I graduated. I felt a little philosophical. I did a history degree, and felt a little more grown up. And a little more historical. I lived in different countries. I felt a little more indifferent.

    Since house prices have just reached two thirds of a million dollars in Auckland, I'll never be able to use house ownership as a ticket to grownupedness. I might have to have children and watch them grow up instead.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2078 posts Report Reply

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