Posts by Bart Janssen

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  • Speaker: BURGERGASM, in reply to Vivid,

    In America people die eating burgers, that doesn’t happen here.

    Every case I've heard of from America has been traced back to kill chains that were not being inspected properly or at all.

    People also die eating sprouts.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: BURGERGASM,

    Can I just say portabello mushrooms make a great burger pattie, especially if you melt blue cheese into them.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: BURGERGASM, in reply to Vivid,

    Stop for a second and think about what the cows go into the works covered in.

    No don’t. Stop for a second and think about the huge effort and cost that goes into ensuring the butchering of our meat animals results in meat free from bacteria. It really is a sophisticated process that works very well. Or does so long as we maintain a publicly funded inspection process to monitor, which at the moment is still pretty damn good.

    Most meat contamination occurs AFTER the meat leaves the freezing works. The big exception is chicken, which is almost always contaminated at the time of slaughter, the key with chicken is to reduce growth of that contamination hence rapid freezing is good.

    Eating a medium-rare burger is really not as much of a hazard as driving to the burger joint.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: BURGERGASM,

    On the burger front in Auckland, it's hard to go past Burger Burger (medium-rare).

    I love home made burgers but have a big problem getting buns that don't dissolve into a soggy mess. Almost certainly because I put too much into the burger :).

    I do quite like the Mt Roskill Burgerfuel.

    Best burger I've ever had was in Cambodia, not sure if it was partly the location (probably) but Raffles in Siem reap made a burger that has lasted in the memory.

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  • Speaker: BURGERGASM, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    With the exception of chicken

    A friend who worked as an epidemiologist never eats chicken outside his home. And then avoids fresh chicken because there is no certainty that it has been stored at a safe temperature, frozen is much safer.

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  • Speaker: BURGERGASM, in reply to RBentley,

    Any minced burger meat that is pink in the middle is likely to house gut-wrenching nasties and so should be avoided, or well cooked to ensure that any lurking salmonellae are toast.

    Not true. It is not "likely", it is possible if hygiene standards are not met, but by no means likely.

    Most commercial minced meat is produced under pretty high standards. IF the chefs and food preparation area is good then there is more risk of food poisoning at home than from eating a medium-rare burger.

    IF the meat is minced on site and again IF chefs and kitchen are good quality you can eat the meat raw with again very little risk, much less risk than you took driving to the burger joint.

    Also worth noting that as you overcook the meat into sterility you are almost certainly blackening the outside and introducing (delicious) carcinogens.

    From a personal perspective if you are going to cook the meat to sterility you may as well become a vegetarian (although note that food poisoning from sprouts etc is not uncommon either).

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Everybody has one,

    “my glass half-full view of the world might just happen to coincide with the glass half-full view of the Government” and declares himself to “have been glass half-full for about 50 years”

    Which is simply a lie, intentional or simply because he fails to remember the vitriol he spilled over the Labour government.

    From the NZHerald to the NPHerald step by step.

    Sad to see Dita's opinion missing from our media, it was thoughtful, researched and reasonable, all things that are rare these days.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: Buying a fight with democracy, in reply to Russell Brown,

    But we do have a bid for exactly the same measure

    And had Rob focused on the issue in New Zealand highlighting the almost complete absence of voter fraud and the insignificant effect of the fraud that has occurred the post would have been just as useful.

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  • Speaker: Buying a fight with democracy, in reply to Lilith __,

    I think what Bart means is that it's a specious and irrelevant connection to make.

    Exactly.

    The problems with the proposals to change the rules around electoral law can be discussed without invoking comparisons that are extreme.

    We do not have the same social structure as the US. We do not have the same large communities equivalent to the black and Hispanic communities in the US that can and have been targeted by the Republicans. We do not have the local political structures that allow counties to create electoral laws designed specifically to target specific (poor) voters.

    Your comparison between The National party and the extreme behaviour of the Republicans, and more specifically the extreme right wing Republicans, does nothing to enhance the discussion it simply acts to add fear and drama to your post.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3803 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: Buying a fight with democracy,

    In the US, the Republican Party

    Invoking the US Republican party as an equivalence to the NZ National party is effectively godwinning your own post.

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