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Rob, thanks for the the Novitz quote and Stanford link. A couple of points illuminated our impasse quite well, for me.
...an influential study by the historian of philosophy Paul Kristeller, in which he argued that the modern system of the five major arts [painting, sculpture, architecture, poetry, and music] which underlies all modern aesthetics … is of comparatively recent origin and did not assume definite shape before the eighteenth century, although it had many ingredients which go back to classical, mediaeval, and Renaissance thought.
Since that list of five arts is somewhat arbitrary, and since even those five do not share a single common nature, but rather are united, at best, only by several overlapping features, and since the number of art forms has increased since the eighteenth century, Kristeller's work may be taken to suggest that our concept of art differs from that of the eighteenth century. As a matter of historical fact, there simply is no stable definiendum for a definition of art to capture.
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Theorists who regard art as an invention of eighteenth-century Europe will, of course, regard this way of putting the matter as tendentious, on the grounds that entities produced outside that culturally distinctive institution do not fall under the extension of “art” and hence are irrelevant to the art-defining project. (Shiner 2001)
The discussion of Dickie's circularity also seemed apt.
I take a broader view where art is a subset of cultural functions, which is why I value what Giovanni has to say about it.
In general, I favour positions which provide a well thought-out place for everyone's perspectives - including Paul's which I regard as in some parts obviously well-informed and in others dangerously defective, notably when it comes to respecting the distinctive worldviews and practices of this place's cultures.
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Any published academic discourse about sports statues?
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Heh. Ridiculed by the common soldiery
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walkin round with heat like charlton heston
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Keir, when someone is acting dismissively, making accusations of anti-intellectualism and insisting on an academically-referenced argument, I think noting relevant qualifications is quite warranted. Paul can say whatever he likes about me, but it is ill-advised to tar Giovanni with the same brush.
In a purely academic setting, your conventional subtlely might be meaningful. Here, not so much.
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You originally wrote "did Dirty Sesh threaten Scribe?". The above comments I think are pretty clear it was a general comment about any threat.
For more, talk to my man LL Cool J..
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Chris, it's hard to respond when you edit that severely.
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Scribe also tweeted:
It wasn't a personal attack I meant in general..Anyone with bad intentions.
That is, if someone tried to attack him and his family in his house, he'd resist forcefully. He's also not making a song and dance about what a tough dude that makes him.
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