Meanwhile, while we all play this "shoot-at-the-evil-Ludwig-van-Beethoven" shell game, the actual elites (Sony, TimeWarner, etc. etc.) get away with handing us our culture
Agreed, but that is not to say that a number of major labels selling classical recordings are also part of these conglomerates.
High culture assumptions about entitlement, class and privilege should be as open to investigation as are the shortcomings of crass commercialism. There is a rather worrying Denis Duttonish view of the world creeping into some of the judgements being made hee.
Yeah, we need to round up all those turntables which the DJs are using, despite their obsolescence.
There may be something in this. A couple of years back, Frank Stark was recommending we all buy a VCR or two, and store them away as the dominant disc format may not always be with us--something to do with the inadequacy of the glue holding the layers together.
Whilst we are giving away stuff, I have a bunch of CD new music samplers (mainly from The Word) I am happy to post to anyone who might like them. Just bung me an email.
Arcade Fire were reviewed by William Dart on his New Horizons programme, on 6 May 2007 and 22 March 2009.
Thanks, Paul. William is a real treasure (he is in the Music Dept at Waikato) and often is a breathe of fresh air in a programme lineup that often sound like it could be coming out of Sussex in 1963.
Arcade Fire is a contemporary rock band that produces music better than many a contemporary classic, or otherwise “concert”, musical artist
Steve: you are my New Best Friend! Arcade Fire revived my faith in the possibilities of music, at a time it was flagging. Several members of AF are classically trained but I wouldn't expect to ever hear them on Concert FM.
Talking of culture, the Script To Screen panel, "Bombing at the Box Office" at The Classic last night ,was quite illuminating. If StS don't write it up, I will do something with the notes I took.
I would be interested to know if there anyone from NatRad or Concert FM following this discussion (reveal thyself!). It is certainly another lively PA debate, in a summer of lively debates. Check out how many views it has accumulated, in just a few days.
Really, Geoff? My understanding is that RNZ has consistently declined to participate in those "highly dubious radio surveys", but far be it from me to disturb the vast right wing/corporate conspiracy narrative.
The information I was given in 1999, when the current survey system was set up, was that the commercial networks deliberately excluded RNZ, who now use Nielsen for their audience research. But I may be wrong--I frequently am.
I can't help thinking that RNZ's success with such high audiences is a BIG target for private stations to take aim at.
I guess that was the motivation for excluding RNZ from the highly dubious radio surveys, or sticking them in an "Other" category.
How does bfm fund itself? I am all for assisting them in widening their transmission range.
Interesting and often persuasive discussion. I can feel myself wavering... (my, that sounds dodgy!)
Just one request--can we abandon the head-on-desk metaphor, in favour of something else? It is getting..umm..a little wooden.
George, orchestral and concert music is not one genre.
Paul: I would argue that it is, in the way it is identified in CD stores (eg Marbeck's), radio listings, radio stations, magazines, library cataloguing--as in Barry K. Grant's general definition of genre as "Genre is what we collectively believe it to be".
Orchestral and concert music aka 'classical music' is the large mega-genre, with sub-genres such as chamber music etc