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I don't think what I'm saying is not that dissimilar from Emma's manifesto;
Producers of child pornography are aggressively prosecuted. (That's actual child pornography that involves harm to actual children, not fiction or drawings.)
Bearing in mind (as any journalism course will iterate) that photographs are no longer indisputable evidence of anything, And our ruch cultural history in which the line between photographs and drawings was blurred before photographs even existed (totally safe for work)
http://www.all-art.org/early_renaissance/images/bellini81.jpg
Giovanni Bellini
Leonardo Loredan, Doge of Venice
1501-1505I don't feel I'm saying anything particularly new on this thread Sam, other than reminding Emma to mention counseling. And stressing that I find the censorship of unexploitive (couldn't find a word) artistic expression totally fucking dark age.
Or we could all get hammers and just start knocking down the most life-like statues of naked cherubs that adorn our historical sites. Because we can't handle it.
In an age where there are documented cases of people being caught and prosecuted for engaging in coitus with inanimate objects such as bikes and vacuum cleaners, and with the power of discrimination the various censorship units are angling to possess over the general populace, in the name of risk deterrence, we might very well end up blind by the time the advertizing industry has had its way with us.
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I'm going to break the deafening silence: given that producing this stuff is by definition harmful to children, who would be seriously making such a case and what would they have been huffing?
Thank you Sam. I have been huffing nothing. Producing naked photos of children, whether by means of camera or using photoshop is not intrinsically harmful to children. That assumption is baseless, unless children are harmed in the production process. Glossing over such distinctions is akin to glossing over the distinction between the pedophile and the citizen who downloads images of child pornography.
Essentially, as tasteless as the subject may be, child pornography arouses some people. To make a case that pornographic images inspire sexual behaviour is not unfounded but it's a rather narrow minded placing of the egg before the chicken in relation to the undeniable progress of human artistic expression.
To put it very simply, if all pornography were banned, would we see a decrease in the number of sexual acts performed in society?
The populations of China and India dispute that.
If sex were banned, would a scenario where pornography is relied to 'ease the urge'. be unlikely?
Basically as revolting as the thought of pedophiles using child pornography to 'ease' the urge is, I'm certain the vast majority of us find acts of pedophilia immeasurably more revolting. There seems to be ample evidence to suggest that this urge is widespread in our societies and I am strongly of the opinion that blanket prohibition of anything, has never quenched the thirst of human desire.
By denying those unforgiveable persons the right to appease their desires with minimal harm, There is stll the nagging sense that we are but firemen licking the tip of the flame with a weak and oft misguided spray.
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your saying we shouldn't...
no Kyle.
I'm notwill use child pornography to... ease the urge,
Has been observed to be a common misuse of all genres of porno.
has been produced by harming children, it's hardly keeping children safe overall, is it?
In agreement with you Emma. Based on that though, a case could be made though for compiling a selection of produced in a way not harmful to children.
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So you blacklist all child porn sites, offer absolutely no dedicated counseling for people who are into looking at child porn, it really leaves the potential pedophile no recourse but to leave the house and find a child...
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..And it was a good day. told my boss i was bored and wanted to go home, and he agreed.
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Thanks for posting those tracks Russell, I have a feeling it's going to be a good day today. I've a hankering to weigh in on this Ringo debate, but the guy is just too good, the records speak for themselves. Very few drummers touch his 'feel'.
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Iguess it depends on your iccent ;-)
haha!
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More on this:
"then probably best you don't comment on translations by professional translators hired by international media organizations.
If while translating. you had included rather than omitted, "don't point at me, what you were told was about the Chinese law ,"; in response to the provocation used to get this 'gentleman' to give you your soundbite. Then things would stand up to a little more scrutiny. Illustrating why I think it is necessary for people to feel free to comment liberally on information issued by broadcast media.
"You think you're gonna help these people, you think you're gonna help these people, do you think you're going to fix there problems, their problems are too big you can't can't do anything "
or more accurately;
"can you fix this problem? You can't help, can you fix the petition problems, if you can, will you fix it?..."
While you neglected to answer the man's question then, I think his question to you Mr Anderlini still stands. If you could help these people would you help them?
I don't mean broadcasting people's faces, who've been told they'll be punished if they talk to western media. I'm not convinced that that is necessarily the most responsible method you could employ to help alleviate her problems. Makes good copy though...
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sounded a lot like "a theory that, because humans are very good at relating causes to effects, they tend to come up with fallacious explanations when they do not what the real cause is. This pre-supposes us to believe in simplistic pseudo scientific explanations.</quote>
Although I liked Atran's and Richard Dawkins' perspectives.
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Thats a perfect example Ben, it seems that this is the age of discovery or rediscovery of our primal mechanisms. Having no aptitude whatsoever for that stuff, I'm often astounded by the limits of human endeavor as exhibited in footage of the Xtreme..