means Samson of the Delilha fame!
ahem ... Delilah
Monday on my mind…
I also see that Lizzie Marvelly’s column, like most other MSM coverage of Waitangi Day, does not note that for the first time since the passing of the ‘Mondayisation bill’ in 2013, that we get a holiday on Monday for Waitangi Day falling on a weekend.
Is it because it was a bill introduced by Labour? or what?
I’d have thought it a landmark of sorts…
Note that Lizzie Marvelly said yesterday she has Te Arawa heritage and today writes in her Herald column about Waitangi Day in that context
I think this is the link you want:
but I will watch that Hendrix doco some time...
I don’t think “men not talking” is a particular problem in this thread.
just too make sure, as I can be pretty cloth-eared to tone at times, is the problem with 'this thread' then that men aren't listening?
I’m doing more than my part to make this a dude conversation, so I’ll shut up for a while.
Isn't that a large part of the problem?
Men don't talk - about many things, casually, deeply, or readily
- that could change meaningfully.
Practice makes 'perfect'.
plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
Pre history ….60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and now into this century – nothing much changes for the good it seems.
Social reinforcement of bad behaviour ( the evolution from Benny Hill to Two and a half men ) and access to ever more violent and depraved mainstream and pornographic material (and yes I am pointing the finger at aspects of the internet, computer games and other publishers) all act to dehumanise and desensitise.
The only real change has been that what was once more covert is now belligerently overt and seemingly condoned by ‘authority’ – there do need to be consequences for a society to function – therefore confrontation.
There were always exploiters in the music industry, they just tended to be in the band or management or on the radio and telly (operation Yew Tree, might shake some of the historical events into the light) – now more of the audience is following suit…
People think they can get away with more these days, and there is less to stop them stopping themselves, let alone others – parents and schools can only do so much (and there is a lot to do), but if the classic role models behave badly (sportsmen, politicians, priests and other paragons – and media messages) then all the positive signal will be undermined and eroded.
My old Sydenham school motto ‘Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you’ is a great social contract, but seems to have been subverted by bullies to read ‘do unto others before they do unto you’.
People can change, and not just those that want to, but society has to largely mirror it.
As to making venues safer – the message and reaction has to be more open – signs on doors to say bullying and intimidation of any sort will not be tolerated and people encouraged to report it and have it backed up when they do – consequences need to be fast and effective.
It will take time, we may have lost a generation or two to the tidal rip of ‘market forces’ and bad judgement. Personal responsibility at all levels needs to prevail so all people can relax safely.
to paraphrase Solomon Burke
- if one of ‘us’ is abused none of of us are free.
</another ‘old man’ clumsily pontificating, but trying to help>
...to be honest - not original
credit Dennis Nordern or Frank Muir for tht
regularly recycled radio remembering ...
Justice or jaundice?
They are rather busy right now though.
the thin yellow line...
perspective makes them look like a fern
and with fronds like this
who needs enemies...
I think Kim feels she made her point by confronting the idiots.
Isn’t the point to change those guys future behaviour and raise their awareness of consequences.
Kim’s ‘point being made’ will largely be preaching to the choir, those boys (and others like them) probably think that when push comes to shove, they got away with it…