Posts by Steve Barnes

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  • Speaker: Meet the middle, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Like Trotter hearing it as "I believe in nothing".

    That got me too. We used to call them "Libertarians" or the "Radical Don't Knows".
    They do believe, they believe that hard work will get you where you want to be, that people that can't or don't want to work are holding them back, that they have no responsibility for anyone but themselves and their family. They are the non-ideological, they know little of history and aspire to be like those they admire, the celebrities and the wealthy.
    I have said, many times before, we were told that automation would give us more leisure time, guess how well that turned out.
    The fact is that unless we invent useless jobs for the masses we will have an ever increasing number of "unemployed" who will take responsibility for those people? it is of no fault of their own. We have the opportunity to create an idyllic existence for the whole world but there are those that still think that if they have the money then they should rule and sod the lazy dole bludging poor.
    What do we do with all those "unemployed" people? well, they shoot horses don't they?.
    We have come to a point in history where we have to re-evaluate what a Human is,. are we Human beings or should we be merely regarded as Human Doings?.

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Welcome to the future train Ian, take a seat.
    You will be travelling in first class because your ticket says "has a clue". Perhaps those of us in this, relatively, small group may have some influence with the guy in the signal box, who, it may be noted, is not on the train. Hopefully that influence may prevent the whole train, third class included, going to that wonderful camp that tells us that "Work Will Set You Free" above the gate.
    Harsh and abhorrent as that analogy may sound I feel that no warning of our potential future is too extreme.
    Rob Salmond, over on another thread, says "Guess where the rest comes from? The middle.," I disagree. I believe the rest come from a complacent and wilfully ignorant populace dumbed down by celebrity and circus, by envy and false hope. Those that believe that aspiring to be rich is the way to go and bugger those who don't believe.

    ...if only National hadn't got rid of night classes and had actually expanded the community education programmes, we may not be where we are now, we might all feel included and possibly in possession of some self worth and self esteem.

    Why would they want an informed and educated populace? wouldn't they prefer a compliant and ignorant GST paying herd of consumers?.

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Aaron Incognito,

    Sorry Aaron, I didn't mean it to be personal. I do think it is important for people to exchange ideas and those ideas do not have to be backed up by anything.
    I guess I am just too tired of the likes of D4J and Undecided Voter and all the rest of those nameless and cowardly mouthpieces of the Nats that whenever I see an anonymous blogger I think the worst.
    Cheers and welcome to PAS.

    eta. What size shoes do you wear?.
    ;-)

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Rich Lock,

    There's been similar arguments floating around for a good few years now:

    Now that's what I'm talking about... (Jeeze, I hate that phrase)
    This is one of the reasons Labour are caught between a Black Hole and a Dark Place, the people who actually labour are few and far between and becoming as rare as dodo puppies. So what do we do with all those unemployable people? this is worth thinking about and is the province of the Labour Party because...
    They shoot horses, don't they?

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Sacha,

    pa-ra-noia

    Just around the corner from me.
    http://www.maplandia.com/new-zealand/northland/paranui/
    Well, its close.
    ;-)

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to steven crawford,

    The exclusive bretheran?

    Hmmm, good point. Now who else do we know that doesn't wear the required tie with those smart business suits? Ah yes... Mike, the psycho, Hosking, bog scrubber to the powerful.
    ;-)

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to steven crawford,

    a more sustainable infrastructure is a well educated population, kitted out with contempory toolboxes.

    Ah, but... who would then clean John Key's toilet?. You see we have to have poor people otherwise how could the wealthy feel so superior?.

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Aaron Incognito,

    Hey. It's my blog.

    My problem with anonymous blogs is that if you can't stand by what you say then why should I listen.
    Aaron (Bhatnagar) Incognito as far as I know. You see it is a trick of the right to pretend to be left and then screw up, or say you used to vote Labour but now because (insert inflammatory accusation here) you don't. So why should I go up that garden path?.

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to chris,

    "Between 1984 and 1993, New Zealand underwent radical economic reform,

    This has to be taken in context.
    Labour inherited an almost bankrupt treasury after the "think big" projects of Muldoon. In a typical National way someone had a great idea and the supporters of the party meddled with it for their own needs, screwed the pooch and left a mess for others to take the blame for, any good that was to have come out of "think big" went to the usual suspects and the country paid the price.
    The 1984 Labour Govt. started out trying to solve the problems left by the National Party but could not get traction, the usual suspects, again, wanted their pound of flesh before allowing the country to reap any benefit (bloody beneficiaries). Backroom deals had been made in the run up to the election between "influential businessmen" and "Labour's fundraisers" to the effect that when and not if, assets were sold, they would be sold at preferential prices to those backers. The BNZ was formed and sold, only later to be bailed out under Shipley.
    An aside here, the bailout was done around the same time as Ruth(less) Richardson's "Mother of all Budgets" where the vote for Social Welfare cut by $650 million, the same amount as the BNZ was bailed out with (bloody beneficiaries bailing out our bank).
    Douglas rolled Lange and the rest is history, Peters exposed the more underhand tax dodges and corruption in the "Wine Box Papers".
    There was much skulduggery around this time, banks lending at preferential rates for Yuppies to buy options on all those not so squeaky clean bonds and shares right through to, as some suspected, State sanctioned murder.
    All this under a "Labour" Govt. Labour in name only, a Trojan horse if you will.
    To this day National continues to blame Labour for all our country's ills yet claims they can carry on with this selling of the "family silver" because Labour did it.
    An analogy if I may, it is akin to throwing buckets of water around your living room and claiming it is a good thing because the fireman did it, difference is that when the fireman did it, your house was on fire, not just in need of a clean.

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  • Speaker: In defence of the centre, in reply to Sacha,

    innovative electric engines,

    Not only the electric motors but the turbines and even the two stage nozzles, a part that would be virtually impossible to manufacture by conventional means.
    Of course, our beloved Government did little to help this company as the good ol' US of Eh? felt it would hurt them in some way.

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