Posts by Bart Janssen

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  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Megan Wegan,

    You have to give people room to take Megan's second option. (Yes, yes, I just giggled smuttily.)

    Oh, puh- lease!

    Dude! I left it alone, couldn't you?

    RB aged 14

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,

    I always google unfamiliar terms

    Every post of Emma's makes me learn another 5 terms, some of which I have to try very hard to unlearn ("I can't be knowin' that!"). Of course you get really caught out when you know the exact meaning of a word like cis* and then get all confusticated.

    * oh and just to note in biology cis and trans are always italicised to indicate their latin origin - 'cos I know you wanted me to pass on my knowledge and wisdom**

    **WTB sarcasm tag

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Very confusing to read the terms when they mean something very different.

    Actually, the root is exactly the same. I see no reason to be confused.

    Absolutely. I understand that, but man when I first saw the term used I did a double take. I could work backwards to figure it out and it made sense. But it still doesn't stop it looking strange to my eyes.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Russell Brown,

    But in my world cis and trans usually refer to regulation of gene expression. cis elements (or motifs) are on the same molecule (of DNA) trans factors are typically proteins that bind to cis elements. An interaction in trans is between two molecules and an interaction in cis is within one molecule.

    Very confusing to read the terms when they mean something very different.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to recordari,

    Wham

    NO!

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  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Andre Alessi,

    splainingsplaining

    OK so here's my feeling about all the terms like privilege etc. It seems to me when most folks enter a discussion they want to be heard at first and only later do they want to hear others. There is nothing wrong with that. But some folks (probably all folks some of the time) are not prepared to learn anything when they enter a discussion. So they say their piece, express their opinion, pass on their experience of the world and continue to say the same thing for ever more. They don't, can't, won't learn from the other voices in the discussion.

    It's those people (or it's all people when they stop being prepared to learn from others) that get dismissed as privileged/mansplainers etc.

    It makes sense to dismiss them because they take away from the discussion without adding to it. They take time and energy to deal with and they limit how much progress a discussion can make towards sharing knowledge and experience.

    But the the problem I have with those terms is all of them are ways of saying "I/we don't want to hear you any more so shut up and go away". Most times it seems reasonable and fair to say that because they are not saying anything that hasn't been said before. But sometimes I think it gets used way way too early. Long before people are sure that the mansplainer etc is unprepared to learn. That's kind of sad because essentially at that point the community has stopped being prepared to learn from the new voice and given up on sharing with the new voice.

    That is the huge difference with this community. We embrace new voices, even when we think (know) they are wrong, we (usually) are prepared to learn from them at the same time that we hope they will learn from us. Usually it takes a long time before people here give up completely on a new voice.

    And thankfully we are pretty tolerant of older voices when they stray and become boring and didactic like this ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Jolisa,

    Myopes of the world, unite

    Absolutely!
    Who said that?
    Is that you over there in the red?
    Where the hell are my glasses?

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  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    And I just spent 3 hours watching the new Sherlock and still no one has said that :(

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  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to Stephanie,

    Ooo that's meta lurking there - love it

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  • Hard News: #NetHui: it's all about you, in reply to 81stcolumn,

    which appears IMHO to require a degree of practice

    Which is another way of saying most of us have been total asshats ourselves online and have (slowly) learned how to avoid asshatary and actually say something useful - which this isn't - so - it being hometime and all...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3426 posts Report Reply

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