That idiot Jimmy Mason in Christchurch, for example, who continued to maintain he had just given his son a “flick on the ear” when witnesses saw him punch his son in the face and he actually told the policewoman who arrived on the scene that he had done so.
Jimmy Mason was ultimately acquitted after the Supreme Court threw out his conviction.
I know plenty of young modern parents who appear, in my view, to be doing a great job bringing up their children without resorting to smacking them.
If you think the sky is falling, you need to provide the evidence.
I don't think the the Sky is falling. And if it ever does fall, it's probably not going to fall on respectable white middle class people like me.
Did that come up before or after the compromises that were in the bill as it passed? The ones that specifically allow for the use of force to keep children and others safe? They seemed reasonable to me.
I believe it's a combination of the two.
And we needs to stop using the word “smacking”. It’s hitting. It’s assault. “Smacking” is a word used to diminish the act, but it speaks volumes about our society that the only time it’s used is when it’s assault on children.
The word hitting is broader than the word smacking. I don't support doing either to children.
Sorry, all I read was “everything else you said was correct but I can’t ever admit I’m wrong.”
We all make mistakes.
How would you decriminalise light smacking, but also reduce/prevent cases where a parent is acquitted for behaviour they’re likely to have gotten a conviction for, had the recipient not been their child?
I thought Chester Borrows' proposed amendment, as adopted in John Boscawen's member's bill was a reasonable first attempt at compromise legislation.
The law change removed that defense, bringing assault against children into line with assault against adults, or animals.
Your understanding of the law around assaults on animals is mistaken.
You can make the same argument for any family violence. And it’s true. But should it somehow be legal to assault people you live with or are related to?
It will sometimes be true, and will sometimes not be true. I anticipate that the ratio differs between instances of smacking and other family violence. If you have evidence to confirm or dispute this, I would welcome it.
It is neither safe nor logical to assume a child is more frightened of the police taking their parent(s) away than they are of the parent(s) themselves.
I am not assuming that. I am open to the possibility that it is true for at least some people, in part based on anecdotal evidence.