"Sock puppeteer" isn't an example of "vitriol": it's just a description of what you were doing, which is coming back under another name and pretending you were someone else with the same opinions. That's an example of the problem: you don't seem to be very good at making your points without almost immediately going into the drama-flounce death spiral. "YOU GUYS ARE MEAN AND YOU SUCK!" isn't actually an argument, y'know?
Maybe you think the permanent resident should be able to vote too?
Heh. It just occurred to me that I *did* lose my right to vote when I was away, because I was a permanent resident until my late 20s, and only got my NZ citizenship by descent a few months before my return. (That explains why I can't remember how I voted in 1999: I *couldn't* vote in 1999.) Your last paragraph describes me almost exactly!
To be honest I don't really understand why citizenship (and turning up to vote somewhere) shouldn't be the bright line between voting and not voting from overseas: it's almost impossible to work out who's truly invested in NZ's future, and moreover it's actually not up to us to judge WHY people are voting, is it? Plenty of people within the country use the franchise in ways we might think are ill-considered, but that's up to them.
Your connection to your home is not just a function of your presence in it.
I left for four years and my visits back were fleeting, but that didn't mean I wasn't invested in my country. I would have been really peeved to have my voting rights removed.
Some of my favourite music on earth is explicitly Christian or gospel-influenced. I find it beautiful and comforting in a humanist way, if that makes sense? That we could make this art for ourselves, because we're frightened, or joyous, or thoughtful.
It's still not a reason to have Bible in Schools be a thing in state education, of course, but it's not like I'm completely hostile to all religious feeling.
Rosemary, I've been posting here under the same name since 2006. What's with the scare quotes?
How people do or do not engage with Christianesque* religious festivals in their own time is actually irrelevant to the argument at hand, which is whether *primary school children*, *in state funded schools*, should be taught religious dogma as truth by *non-qualified individuals* on a weekly opt-out basis. I don't think they should.
*I celebrate Christmas as a family and food festival rather than a religious one. We like lights! We like giving each other presents! We like elaborate meals! We've taken the fun parts and left the other stuff alone, and that's fine for us and makes us happy. Anyone who got up in my grill about my consumerism or non-church attendance would be given... rather short shrift, because seriously, WTF with the weird judgeypants concern trolling? How is it any of your damn business?
like, where is the fear coming from?
I lived in the American south for four years. The insidious religious bullshit everywhere is at best tiresome and at worst actively harmful. We don't need it here in state schools and I'll pitch as many hissyfits as I fucking like about it, thank you very much.
I was gearing up for a battle when my oldest starts school next year, but according to the survey results spreadsheet our local school doesn't have "Religious Instruction" at all, which is a relief. I remember having it on Auckland's North Shore in the very early 1980s. My mother was most unimpressed by it but let me go for the sake of "fitting in": the instructor was very pretty and popular with the children. I rather wish she hadn't now. All I recall is getting the impression that my deeply irreligious New Zealand family were off to eternal damnation, and it obviously rather worried me. A horrible tale to tell little kids.
a high falutin’ dinner party intellectual
Did it ever occur to you that not everyone needs to rabbit on about their salt-of-the-earth working-class bona fides all the fucking time?
Learning self-defence will not, as I said, keep you safe from being raped.
Why are we still using "teach women to do stuff" arguments anyway? I'm sick of learning all these fucking things. Let's teach some men to do stuff for a change.
I’m not sure which of part of David’s post I find more amusing: the implication that the media shouldn’t have talked to the victim of an extremely newsworthy sexual assault *because she’s pretty*, or his low opinion of the “data” used in support of a feminist theoretical term he had apparently never heard of before this week.