Posts by Joe Wylie
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Oops, Craig.
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Craid:
Fetishise the elderly wonk all you want, poor Don will never be more than a martyr to his own ineptitude. -
PASers can snigger, but I actually think he's genuinely pissed off.
Nana Brash is pissed off? I'm wetting myself with fear.
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You don't have to like what I believe, but you have to allow me the freedom to follow my faith, providing I'm not affecting yours.
Naturally, except that it's a faith tied to an institution with a long history of repression, racketeering (selling indulgences, attempting to monopolise the institution of marriage), and outright abuse. That said, it's obvious to all but the two most recent popes that the church is far from being a monolithic institution. Expressing disgust at revealed cases of abuse years after the fact does come across as hollow cant when it's accompanied by apologies for the lack of action by reactionary popes.
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- PIG IRONY
here comes the sludge!
Pigmeat Markam - Here Come De Judge! -
I've got an Epiphone guitar and valve amp, that I don't really know how to play. Its ornamental.
Beats an air guitar any day.
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In the early 90s the Holmes Show ran an item on farrowing crates, using, I think, overseas footage, with the angle that there were moves afoot to introduce the practice to NZ. Around the same time there was a piece on battery chicken farming, stressing the cruelty of such methods, and when Holmes was in Barcelona for the Olympics the show featured an item on bullfighting, presenting it as a barbaric hangover. Shortly afterwards I left the country for around a decade, having gained the impression that NZ's Finest Broadcaster was something of an animal welfare advocate.
Maybe it was all the passing work of a mole within the show, as any vestige of social conscience from that quarter seemed to have been swamped by towering self-satisfaction in the ensuing decade. I missed the rise of the alleged comedian Mike King, though there are those who assure me that he once could be genuinely funny, albeit briefly. Now I know that he's something more than another of poor Tony Veitch's leering pals.
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I'm not aware of research to that effect -- but working in American chicken plants is bad for your health and various other things. It's a disgusting, exploitative industry that preys on a largely immigrant workforce in a brutal fashion.
Just personal experience, Russell. And in the blood-soaked NZ economy you don't have to go far to find that. There's a particularly unpleasant-looking condition that affects chickens, known colloquially as octopus guts, which is only apparent when you disembowel the bird. What's left is still deemed fine for human consumption, though once seen it killed my interest in eating chicken.
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I'm a little bit squirrel-curious too.
If you must. Might pay to avoid the brains though.
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What bothers me about pig-farming is not just their living conditions, but also the normal circumstances of their deaths: they are an intelligent animal, and while it's unlikely they can know they're going to die, they can certainly understand screaming and mass fear.
Mammals - and most birds - have much the same emotional natures as we do. Perhaps mercifully, they're limited in how far they're able to reflect on their circumstances, a tendency which is exploited in battery farming. If you treated humans that way a large proportion would surely die of despair. Pigs and chickens rarely ever lose hope.
Death at an abbattoir is very different from on-farm killing by an experienced butcher...
I think we should, as a nation, look very carefully at the way we transport and kill *all* our domestic food animals.The brutalisation of those who work in factory slaughter situations must surely have a huge social cost.