Posts by Bart Janssen

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks, in reply to David Hood,

    you kind of need two, side by side

    But TV is not a static medium, you aren't limited to a graph that is fixed. You could have some seats fixed red blue green or purple and some that flick between colours slowly or rapidly depending on uncertainty or something much cleverer with a 3D component.

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Honestly is there any reason why they couldn’t report actual intervals instead of just simplistic percentages.

    I have some sympathy here. Explaining confidence intervals in a three-minute news item is not something I’d like to try and do.

    But yes, as you and Pete both note, treating the simple number as gospel is actually misleading.

    I've been thinking about this a bit and I think it comes back to something I get told in my profession a lot. First we have to make it simple enough for the [stupid] public and second we have to avoid talking down to the [stupid] public.

    The big problem I have with that is that in my experience the public is NOT stupid. Sometime they are disinterested, which is fine, a lot of the time they don't remember or never learned the necessary background, but very rarely are they unable to understand.

    However it can take time to explain which gets back to your 3 minute problem.

    But I still think the MSM could take a punt and start representing the poll data in a manner more closely linked to reality. They love flashy graphics and surely this is an occasion where a really nice graphical representation could convey the uncertainty of the outcomes. I suspect the public would respond quite positively to a graph that showed just how important their vote might really be come election day.

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks, in reply to Sacha,

    Thinking about it you need another bar or another colour on each bar to describe the don't know vote.

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks, in reply to Sacha,

    I'd argue that such a graph is a clearer version of the data than any of the numbers given in the news.

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks, in reply to Andrew Geddis,

    Yep. That’s a story they’ll want to run.

    And yet that is exactly the story New Zealand needs to hear to understand that MMP is actually working as intended and not just being steamrolled by National.

    It IS a balanced situation where your vote counts - NOT what is being reported.

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  • Hard News: Gower Speaks,

    Honestly is there any reason why they couldn't report actual intervals instead of just simplistic percentages.

    What he is doing by presenting the simplistic numbers is actually misinformation

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  • Feed: Saints Preserve, in reply to Lilith __,

    Meant as a compliment. ;-)

    Taken as one :)

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  • Feed: Saints Preserve, in reply to Jos,

    a gardening blog

    It's called a lab book ... and people call me a crazy scientist.

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  • Hard News: Poll Day 2: Queasy, in reply to BenWilson,

    *can you support this with a link? I wouldn’t be surprised, but I’d genuinely like to know what their methods are.

    The stats chat article I linked on the first page talks more about it. And I think Michael and Andrew have it right.

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  • Feed: Saints Preserve, in reply to Lilith __,

    flushing with nitrogen

    You crazy scientists! ;-)

    Hush I'm a crazy wine nut http://www.winekeeper.com/winekeeper-single-use-nitrogen-canister.html

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