You need to pull your head in and show others some respect.
However, until you can provide me evidence that this entire saga is about glossing over the involvement of a cop’s son, you’re not going to get me to concede anything like what you’re seeking. Fuck’s sake,
I feel as far as the Police are concerned evidence doesn't matter - ironic as it is - evidence can be made up, destroyed - it is largely malleable for purpose.
The entire saga is about many things that include "glossing" over the involvement of a group of young males, that include a police officer's son, who have, by their own admission in social media, stupefied and raped for a sustained period with impunity till now.
my unwillingness to join the trendy pile-on rankles
People have a right to express outrage at the whole situation and are right in doing so , for you to be rankled by that expression and to trivialise it to mere trend is belittling of that concern.
show me the fucking proof!
I find you closing comment pretty distasteful and also resorting to the words “Fuck”, “Fuck’s sake” insensitive in the circumstances, bearing in mind that at the core of this is the rape of minors.
The manner you are expressing yourself shows has no sensitivity or compassion for the victims. I feel you really need to think hard about the issues – your locking horns and abuse are all about you with little consideration for others.
The lack of consideration for others and readily resorting to abuse are the seed of problem – it appears so ingrained in you that you are unlikely to see it.
Men writing to the Minister of Police to express outrage at the series of events and insisting on wide ranging actions bering taken now to restore faith in the police.
Leaving the officers involved in place will skew any IPCA inquiry.
A level of wilfull neglect that is disgusting and worse it is likely to be a common occurence in "police operations" on a national basis. The Police are not in a credible position to assure that "this" is not the case.
People need to step aside NOW.
In dealing with the PR storm the Police will spend/allocatre a greater level of resources than would have been involved in seriously investigating the complaints.
We need to have confidence in the Police - The budget considerations no doubt stretched to accommodate the KDC raid in Jan 2012 - so the Government can see to it they accommodate the resourcing required for the police investigate complaints of sexual assault and the gang rape of minors properly.
The police officers who handled the initial complaint case and the chain of police who have misled the entire country should be stood down and the Minister should initiate a commission of inquiry - if this doesn't happen the opposition should constantly call for the resignation of the Minister of Police and an inquiry.
Dependant on the outcome of the inquiry those that misled the public and the minister either wilfully or by omission should be gone as should the officers who handled the 2011 initial complaint.
According to the police the monitoring/inquiry, or lack thereof, has been ongoing since 2011. One of the persons of concern is a police officer's son.
So, as a father what did this Police Officer do about his son's behaviour. I am making the assumption the police officer would have known and also that the police would have interviewed the two main protagonists and at least talked to their parents.
To my mind there needs to be an inquiry into the Police response, or lack thereof – The whole thing is extremely wrong.
Same problem different situation - This quote in a Yahoo News Article this morning:
"The biggest problem is that the police don't take action until child victims file reports, but children almost never report these crimes," said head of campaigns Hans Guyt.
The illness in our society where all things fall at the feet of the abused and abuser is protected and enabled is absurd.
It is not up to the victims to prepare the case for the police – the police comment that the victims of pack rape/child rape “did not provide evidence that could be put before a court” is BS.
The police have the power and resources to liase with victims, their families, and others to create the basis to lay charges against these guys. The Police don’t have to wait till this most foul and tragic situation gains a media profile to start doing their job.
If this “situation” had not gained a media profile what were the Police waiting for - a private prosecution?
I hope the abused girls get or are getting support.
John Key, putting on the "feeling prime ministerial costume" for a Monday – really – up yours.
That the Police didn’t seriously consider prosecuting Banks yet a private prosecution produces a case for Banks to answer, which is now picked up by Crown Law, whereas the Police on the other hand hound and get heavy with the journalists and the media with the Tea Pot Tapes Saga speaks volumes about the state of democracy in NZ and the Police being free from key political influence.
I am pretty sure you get it – a person can behave in a stupid way regardless of any other characteristic or attribute they possess – I am pretty sure you understand that as a concept that is without contradiction.
The actions of Brown and Banks do, to me at least, reveal their character – perhaps you are Ok with “it” – but I am not.