Is this a test on who paid attention in 7th form history?
yeh my understanding is that the TRANSLATION DIFFERENCES between Maori and English were a crucial part of the problem. And under international law the valid version of the treaty is the one in the Native language.
however, as I'm sure you are aware the treaty was for a long time considered a 'legal nullity' and English law was applied from a date when Hobson extended a claim over NZ from Sydney. ( I think from memory. Is there anyone who has listened to Jane Kelsey more recently than me??)
It's quite a grey area.
Most of what we refer to as the treaty today is something a little different to a literal interpretation of the words, mostly worked out in common law during the 80s and 90s. Is this correct?
I.E. Winston's favourite the 'principles of the Treaty of Waitangi' which seem to be something like partnership, 'being one tribe' or some such.
I remember JK, cue soft lighting, kids and ukele music, talking on tv3 saying that he wouldn't have gone into Iraq, but that he supported the right of US and UK to do so, because he supported "countries' rights to take their own actions."
This guy could be our prime minister. Yeh I guess he is just itching for the moment he can quit this touchy feely crap and go back to being the right winger he is inside. This is still the same crew from the Brash National party right? Can their convictions really be so much different?
"Could someone tell me - and I am genuinely fascinated to hear a sensible answer - why so many people are obsessed with a foreign domestic competition on the other side of the world?"
Because it is the best league in the number one sport in the world perhaps? Other than that I really couldn't say...
osted at 3:49PM on 6 Mar 08. Report. Permalink.
Regarding Auckland Airport and its imminent closedown by the Canuck invaders, it's a real problem having all these foreign owned businesses that could shut down at any stage:
We could be left with no banks, newspapers or telephones and be forced to line up for hours at the remaining New World supermarkets and Gasoline Alley servos for food and petrol.
Could happen any moment - better stock up!
sorry don't know how to quote....
yep another pearl for privatisation right there- the government or the local government or local trusts shouldn't have anything to the Auckland Savings Bank, the Westpac Trust bank, the ANZ/Postbank, The Bank of New Zealand and the others I neglected to mention....
Why when this sector has been making supernormal profit (I've got Brian Gaynor articles somewhere) and zipping it overseas quick smart, has their been no private sector New Zealand entries to the market?
sorry that was a reply to
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Anyway, why doesn't the Government just bite the bullet and nationalise the airports, ports and rail network and tell us what social services are going to be cut to pay for it all? :)
The airports and ports *make* money. The rail network is in public ownership apart from the oepration of freight and tourist trains - and it's quite likely that Toll will collapse and those will need to be bailed out, as well.
Perhaps if they were nationalised, the revenue from the (air)ports could subsidise the rail network. That's pretty much how the New York subway is financed, incidentally.
gee carefull - you'll start people thinking that mass transit is a good and useful thing, and that knocking down houses to build roads is dumb...
will folk now drop the niggle about the PM and respect the choices she has made...
and perhaps Rich actually believed in this centerist lurch the National party is allegedly doing, given that she stood up to Don Brash over (I think it was) DPB bashing, and so didn't really fit in?
IE when your party is trying to be vague and cuddly and saying 'underclass' type things for the sake of marketing and electability, it doesn't help knowing that they are ideologies of convience if you think they should be more than that?