We've wandered down a cul-de-sac lead by commercial interests, and now we're acting like just because there isn't a map there aren't any other roads.
Just one small change and it broadens the whole thing out.
But I dont blame the money, it just lays there looking attractive, enticing.
But too much looking at the bottom line seems to dull the senses, or is that narrow the outlook. I can never tell.
Sooo is Herbert Morgan (CA) like the dirty old man of this crowd? The kind who is always trying to get people to reach into his coat pocket to get lolly.
Auckland does ................ lower end food extraordinarily well.
These establishments are where I choose to dine.
No one seemed to notice my RB missive above. Or was it just too much for you all to admit that's how you feel? ;-)
That bodes well for my chances of one day having sex with aliens.
Someonez haz to seez them firzt
Like we need another legal way for ordinary NZ'ers to trash their bodies and minds and become a constant drain on the taxpayer system...
Gee..... measured by that yardstick Work could be made illegal.
Sometimes it requires an effort to stand back and remind myself that religion does also (much more quietly) do many good things for society.
I would much rather you gave the credit for all those good things to the people who perform them. Crediting it to that vague spectre religion does them a disservice. Tho' they may credit their particular faith, Im sure they would really get a kick out of a personal thanks at the time.
Then again, absence of proof is not proof of absence. William Cowper. He was a poet, and as Bjork said 'you can't trust a poet'.
Yes, as a principle for enabling the possibility of God, it sounds weak.
You could on the right track there Ben.
Victor Stenger in his new book suggests a lack of evidence for gods is evidence for the lack of gods
David I must also apologise for my first grumpy post. Sorry.
Sorry, no Andin. My dish is but persuasive language with a sprinkling of anecdote
And you are very good at it.
Communication misunderstanding I thought you were referring to the Long March. I see from your links you meant the Cultural Revolution.
Not much I can say, I don't want to reduce all those lives lost to numbers. Its a problem in China (it may be changing I don't know) individual lives sometimes don't count for much. It may have something to do with China's history.
Russia had similar problems in its violent transition from an absolute monarchy to communism. The population transferred their total submission from the Czar/Church to the leaders of the Bolsheviks, and Stalin exploited it.
Anyway wayyy to serious, Im off to take in the sunset.
Any definition of atheism that treats it as other than a religious position is rather silly, surely? These definitions all seem to be invented for the convenience of atheists.
There's more than one definition of atheism? And all these alternate definitions have been invented by atheist? for their convenience?
The idea that atheists want to encourage thought is mildly amusing. If you hold most atheists up to the light, ........blah ....blah...........blah why Christainity is shit".
Enough atheist propaganda. Atheism isn't about thinking, as any acquaintance with them shows. It's about convenience.
Boy you are so far off the mark, for a well educated person, and veering dangerously close to lunacy.
Questioning the beliefs handed down to us from a couple of
millennia of dubious reasoning is not encouraging thought?
What a bizarre assertion.
Atheism is about convenience?
Good lord man what are you on?
Horrendous atrocities committed in the PRC back in the day to stifle religion, resulted in significantly limited freedom of public expression of religion (particularly with reference to these Abrahamic religions which are undeniably the prime focus of this thread) that have been allowed to reemerge, producing an environment where belief systems remain in the only place they're of any practical benefit, ie. in peoples' own minds.
PRC, Are you talking about the People Republic of China?
Do you have anything that might resemble evidence for your assertions above? There is presently an awful lot of publicity around events the the RCC, that would suggest that beliefs left alone in peoples minds festered and erupted in very corrosive ways. Of no benefit at all.
And as an aside as an atheist Im not to keen on Hinduism, all that caste stuff. And although I have come to reject all the supernatural add on elements to Buddhism, I find a daily mindfulness of breathing meditation helps me with my day. But thats a story for another day.
hell bent on getting you thinking really hard about something they think it's a waste of the world's time to think about, is nowhere near as annoying as proselytizing Christians,
I wish everyone thought like you.
Isn't there some cat called Dick Dawkins who makes a living carrying on about it?
Last I heard he was an evolutionary biologist and author and made his living doing that. He did write on book specifically about religion.
"Makes a living carrying on about it" is as an inaccurate statement as one could make about his profession.
And anyway I was hoping you would dish the dirt on PA's most vociferous atheists.
It was the only sect of non-believers at University that I can remember had their own club about it, and regularly gave Christians airtime and a pulpit in loud debates,
Ya see there's yer problem, university debating clubs are just an excuse to get pissed and all the loudness was just built up thirst waiting to be sated. Not real life at all. Oh Wait.....