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Up Front: Not Such a Hard Word After All

I love public apologies. They’re so deliciously awkward. Basically, you’re starting off already screwed, then seeing how much deeper you can make the hole before shutting your mouth.

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giovanni tiso
From: Wellington
Since: Jun 2007
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I think the previous Pope's "pardoning and rehabilitating" of Galileo takes some serious beating in terms of non-apology apology.

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Emma Hart
From: Christchurch
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I think the previous Pope's "pardoning and rehabilitating" of Galileo takes some serious beating in terms of non-apology apology.

Yes, just a teeny bit too late.

I'm also a big fan of the Catholic Church's 'oh, BTW, turns out Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute after all' sorry.

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giovanni tiso
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Yes, just a teeny bit too late.

It's not so much that, it's the fact that they pardoned him. The Onion's Pope Forgives Molested Children piece as usually was not that far removed from reality.

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Rochelle Hume
From: Warkworth
Since: Sep 2007
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Love the apology website - who thinks of such things?

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Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
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Sorry if you took offence. Cry-baby.

Well, down here in little old Middle Earth the passive-agressive "fuck you sookie-bubba" non-apology is an entirely secular art. I wonder if the State Services Commission has a handy super-secret template so civil servants can just churn 'em out with a single key stroke... :)

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Skinny
From: Wellington
Since: Aug 2007
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Rumours are that the short man who was once on TV and is now getting ready to retire from radio wrote Veitch's sorry script.

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Ben Austin
From: London
Since: Nov 2006
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The Pope's been riding the apology pony pretty hard since he took office...

Love this turn of phrase.

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Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
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For those interested, PerfectApology.com has a list of criteria, by which you can assess public apologies for Epic Fail.

And I've got a ninth criteria: Sincerity.

Seriously. What really got on my last nerve about Veitch's apology, was that it might not have satisfied any of the criteria Perfect Apology came up with, but it reeked of something carefully drafted by a PR consultant, vetted by I don't want to know how many lawyers so as not to admit anything that would come back to bite in court then stage managed liked a haute couture runway show.

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Emma Hart
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What really got on my last nerve about Veitch's apology, was that it might not have satisfied any of the criteria Perfect Apology came up with, but it reeked of something carefully drafted by a PR consultant

I'd been trying to work out what bothered me so much about the Veitch apology (apart from the obvious, k?), and until I read that article, I hadn't realised how big an impression the time delay had made on me. I think it could have been a tour de force of apparent sincerity, and after that much time had gone by I'd just have assumed his 'team' had him in serious rehearsals. "Okay, now again, but this time let the lip quiver just a bit..."

If you watch the Michelle interview, at one point the reporter says to her 'you're obviously very upset'. She is, really? I couldn't see it, but maybe it was the obscuring cloak of Englishness.

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B Jones
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
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Without having seen it, I suspect that in that context, "obviously" means "one would expect this to be the case, but we have to ask because it's not all that obvious to us, and we'd like to reassure ourselves and our viewers that we're not being played here."

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Tim Michie
Since: Nov 2006
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And let's not forget Bush's regret ovre the war/s: his language...

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steven crawford
From: wellington
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I like that word 'regret' "I sincerely regretted vomiting all over your carpet" meaning, I spewed up, but I'm feeling better now.

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Sacha
From: Ak
Since: May 2008
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And now Veitch's similarly unapologetic wife wades in with more "it's not fair" whining:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4659090a11.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10527461&pnum=0

Apparently the police should be there to "protect" her and her hubby, rather than investigate him.

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Lucy Stewart
From: Christchurch, NZ
Since: Nov 2006
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Apparently the police should be there to "protect" her and her hubby, rather than investigate him.

And she rather strongly implies that Dunne-Powell should just build a bridge and get over it, because she has. Ew.

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Emma Hart
From: Christchurch
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OTOH, I might well forgive the person who gave me this.

(Yes, I'm linking to Cake Wrecks, but at least it's on a weekend.)

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Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
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And now Veitch's similarly unapologetic wife wades in with more "it's not fair" whining:

That's two weekends in a row that both papers (and for all I know, the Sunday News too) have been fed stories sympathetic to Veitch.

I've no doubt there's a PR campaign in operation. I find it distasteful.

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steven crawford
From: wellington
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Kevin Rudd, sorry for pinching the children.

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JohnAmiria
From: hither and yon
Since: Aug 2008
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I've no doubt there's a PR campaign in operation. I find it distasteful.

I think you're right on both counts Russell, but I'm wondering what the alternative is. If Veitch does nothing he gets fried by the media and will be convicted by the Court of Public Opinion well before he actually gets to trial.

As distasteful as it is, I think there are questions about the timing of these complaints. I speculate (since I don't know the facts) that Dunne-Powell made this matter public after she spent the settlement money or when a gag clause ran out. I think Mrs Veitch is right when she says

Veitch is unsure why Dunne-Powell laid a complaint two-and-a-half years after the incident but assumes her husband's former partner has not let go of the relationship.

That said, what he did was terrible and he deserves to be charged.

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steven crawford
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That said, what he did was terrible and he deserves to be charged.

I spose that means, I make no apology for his behavior, but... there there might be mitigating factors, before the fact.

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JohnAmiria
From: hither and yon
Since: Aug 2008
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I spose that means, I make no apology for his behavior, but... there there might be mitigating factors, before the fact.

You suppose wrongly. Completely wrongly. Might I suppose from your response to my comment that you can't actually comprehend what I have written? I've re-read my comments and don't see any ambiguity: "what he did was terrible and he deserves to be charged."

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