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Since: Nov 2006
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Hard News: Now It's On
The general election will, as widely predicted, be held on November 8. And in Helen Clark's announcement of that fact we got a pretty clear look at the message Labour will take to the voters.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9060
Moderator
Okay, go ...
Che Tibby
From: the back of an envelope
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1523
damn good call on the election date mr. brown.
<tips hat>
Tim Michie
From: Auckward
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 237
Does the press conference run down of achievements and running down National count towards electioneering advertising..?
Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 7160
Nah... "Has John Key stopped beating your wife yet?" is not a clear look at Labour's agenda -- ambitious or otherwise.
Go.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9060
Moderator
Stuff wins the race to get a substantial story up.
Although the Herald's effort, posted 1 min earlier, does contain the first third-party comment. Rodney Hide, of course.
barnaclebarnes
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 54
I'm so over this election already and it has only just started!
anjum rahman
From: hamilton
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 126
damn good call on the election date mr. brown.
<tips hat>
yes, i thought it rough that some journalist questioned whether the standard had prior information, yet didn't mention your predictive powers...
Deborah
From: Adelaide
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 815
I thought the announcement speech was dull...
And what happens to the Rt Hon Winston Peters?
Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 7160
And when are we going to see your policy, Helen? "Over the coming weeks" is a bit lame, isn't it? :)
giovanni tiso
From: Wellington
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 4372
Okay, go ...
To the US if Obama and Key both win? But I like it here.
(When Berlusconi won the 1995 election, the next day the front page of the satirical weekly Cuore consisted entirely of a photo of the editors smiling in front of the Tour Eiffel and the headline: GREETINGS FROM PARIS.)
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9060
Moderator
yes, i thought it rough that some journalist questioned whether the standard had prior information, yet didn't mention your predictive powers...
I actually tweaked yesterday's reference to make it clear I didn't get a tip from anyone.
We've had to nut it out so we can plan for the Media7 election special (yes!), and hearing that you can't book a hall that Saturday just confirmed it.
Kyle Matthews
From: Dunedin
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 4401
Is she saying "they pinched our policies, so we're pinching their sales pitch"?
I'm still enjoying the irony of "they pinched our policies, but we found them lying around so we're releasing them for them".
My pick. National to win by about 4-5 seats over Labour, but with Act gone, and NZ First off the list of partners, they'll struggle to find a coalition.
anjum rahman
From: hamilton
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 126
And what happens to the Rt Hon Winston Peters?
parliament doesn't rise til 3 october. the committee is meeting next tuesday, i believe they are due to report to parliament on 23 sept (from something dr cullen said during question time this week). in any case, plenty of time for the process to be worked through.
David Slack
From: Devonport
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 595
Moderator
I thought the announcement speech was dull...
I agree. She made the recitation of policy accomplishments as ordinary as the reading of a grocery list. Way to squander an opportunity with a captive audience.
She was strongest when she recalled how many of those policies had been opposed by National only to be latterly embraced. "Insincere" was a good choice of words.
FletcherB
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 530
Oh, I'm pretty sure Nov 8th has been the predominant prediction all year....
Obviously, as more and more of the year becomes history, less dates are available.... so there was a broader range of predictions earlier on... it was still the most common.
So, while kudos is due for getting it right..... if bets were being taken it was always the shortest odds, so no more kudos than predicting the favorite will romp home in a race....
James Littlewood*
From: Auckland
Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 119
Worried about the elction?
Party vote Green.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9060
Moderator
To the US if Obama and Key both win? But I like it here.
Heh. Actually, it occurred to me that it doesn't matter that much who wins here, in that we'll still have a modern economy run along conventional lines by people who aren't total nutjobs. Our foreign and trade policies would be virtually unchanged by a change of goverment.
Over there, on the other hand ... I worry that there might be a nutjob a heartbeat away from the big job.
giovanni tiso
From: Wellington
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 4372
Worried about the elction?
Party vote Green.
Nah, I'm still worried. And I'm positively unsettled by the your username - what's with the asterisk? I keep looking for a footnote or disclaimer.
Che Tibby
From: the back of an envelope
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1523
I worry that there might be a nutjob a heartbeat away from the big job.
are you suggesting that palin might 'shipley' clinton?
James Littlewood*
From: Auckland
Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 119
Giovani: At least you're unsettled positively.
And - trust me - there are bigger things to worry about.
Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 7160
She was strongest when she recalled how many of those policies had been opposed by National only to be latterly embraced. "Insincere" was a good choice of words.
Really? In the unlikely event Helen Clark ever takes my advice, it's either STFU about National's "secret agenda" and present one of your own NOW, or at least get your story straight. Either John Key is Ruth Richardson in man-drag and therefore to be avoided at all costs, or... well, you in man-drag. Pick a line and stick to it.
Oh, and someone should really grow the spine to ask Clark whether she repealed every piece of legislation she opposed as leader of the Opposition. I'm getting enough high functioning psychosis from the McCain-Palin campaign, and Winston Peters is filling my convenient memory loss needs.
Paul Litterick
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 902
Textual analysis: the PM's statement had 1302 words, nine of which were interesting: "The general election will be held on 8th November."
giovanni tiso
From: Wellington
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 4372
Giovani: At least you're unsettled positively.
And - trust me - there are bigger things to worry about.
I've just decided that your foonote is: posters may be closer than they appear.
are you suggesting that palin might 'shipley' clinton?
I choose not to understand what that means.
Over there, on the other hand ... I worry that there might be a nutjob a heartbeat away from the big job.
Would that be the creationism sheila or the bomb, bomb, bomb Iraq geezer?
Juha Saarinen
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 461
Che Tibby
From: the back of an envelope
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1523
I choose not to understand what that means.
1st female PM.
Rik
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 70
May the best team win.
Well - most popular team.
Question: Would you prefer a Labour-NZ First coalition or a Labour-National (un-thinkable, I know) coalition?
Lucy Stewart
From: Christchurch, NZ
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 992
Question: Would you prefer a Labour-NZ First coalition or a Labour-National (un-thinkable, I know) coalition?
Definitely the latter. Let's face it, at this stage both of those options are only good for their amusement value, and watching the various personalities of the two main parties try and pretend to be on the same side for more than thirty seconds would have endless amusement value. For the three days or so the coalition lasted.
giovanni tiso
From: Wellington
Since: Jun 2007
Posts: 4372
I choose not to understand what that means.
1st female PM.
La-la-la-laaaa... I can't heaaar youuuuu...
Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 7160
Question: Would you prefer a Labour-NZ First coalition or a Labour-National (un-thinkable, I know) coalition?
Well, I've got a third option. Key and Clark holding a joint press conference and saying that if more than 5% of those who cast party votes return New Zealand First to Parliament, that's democracy. But they should do so in the full knowledge that Winston Peters and his party will have no role in any government they form. No ifs. No buts. No wiggle room.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9060
Moderator
Textual analysis: the PM's statement had 1302 words, nine of which were interesting: "The general election will be held on 8th November."
Heh.
Although it is probably notable that "future" and "trust" were both mentioned eight times each.
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