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Since: Nov 2006
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Hard News: Proud Wednesday
A while back hereabouts, there was general acclaim -- not least from the ladies -- for the idea of bringing back Gloss, the 80s TV drama that has lived on in the dreams of New Zealanders these past 18 years. Well, here it is.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
Oh, and I have a special post due tomorrow from one of the TV journalists featured on Onscreen. I trust you'll find it interesting.
barnaclebarnes
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 54
Great work on NZ On Screen. I would love to see some kind of license employed for all new work that gets NZ On Air funding whereby it has to be put into some form of Creative Commons License after 15 years. After all most content doesn't have a long commercial shelf life but the cultural importance of the work as an entire body is something that we need to curate and allow access to future generations.
Che Tibby
From: the back of an envelope
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1523
i follow a particular tweet so i was lucky enough to see NZonScreen last night.
Spot On is absolutely classic, as is the episode of After School, "MaoriMind".
i say well done to all involved. it's a great site, looks slick, and is easy to use.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
I would love to see some kind of license employed for all new work that gets NZ On Air funding whereby it has to be put into some form of Creative Commons License after 15 years. After all most content doesn't have a long commercial shelf life but the cultural importance of the work as an entire body is something that we need to curate and allow access to future generations.
Yep. Even though it's appeared as a buzzword in the Digital Strategy, CC is still a sell to most stakeholders -- not necessarily a hard sell, but something that needs to be explained -- and marketed. Hopefully what we've been able to do will help a little.
Tom Semmens
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1094
Pah! Low quality spending destined for Mr. Key's razor gang!
Danielle
From: PAS Women's XV Strategic Headquarters
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 2249
NZ Onscreen, the living archive of New Zealand television and film
Eeeeeeee! I am doing a lot of squeaking today, but this is great!
Tom Semmens
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1094
Oops. Hit "Post Reply" to soon. I should have added - that was the comment of my erudite, talented but extremely right wing advertising friend.
Ben Gracewood
From: Orkland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 122
Absolutely brilliant. A fantastic resource that I'll be pointing my Social Studies teaching wife at for sure.
Sofie Bribiesca
From: here and there.
Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 2240
Just noticed (in the photo gallery) a picture of the Redferns house.I remember my parents attending the Gloss Auction when it finished.It had many bargains. They still have the matching lights shown at the top and bottom of the stairs in the photo. I am constantly reminded of Gloss every visit home :)
Tim Michie
From: Auckward
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 237
Sooo good to see these potential uses becoming actual and good to know you're aboard to get them there the good way Russell...
Paul Campbell
From: Dunedin
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1181
Wow - Patu! - the poster always claims "you may even be in it" - but I never had a chance to actually look at the crowd scenes in detail
I once saw it at an anti-apartheid film festival in Berkeley CA in the old UC theatre (same place they did the live Rocky Horror midnight show) - I never really knew any kiwis in the US, we were few and far between - but when Muldoon made an appearance in the film there were scattered boos in the dark from around the theatre
Sam F
From: Morningside, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1187
Media 7 was great. A very good evening at the filming, and I'm sure the show will be just as much fun for those at home.
Christiaan
From: London, UK
Since: Dec 2006
Posts: 19
Shame it's in Flash.
James Littlewood*
From: Auckland
Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 119
This is the best thing to hapen since ages ago.
Does this mean NZOA is gonna re-brand? Raises an interesting question: where does NZOA really want NZ to be?
A: On air
B: On screen
C: On speaker-cones
D: I don't care where, as long as -
James Littlewood*
From: Auckland
Since: Mar 2008
Posts: 119
...
D: Just on
Stephen
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2008
Posts: 47
<quote> you'll take advantage of the search engine optimisation built into the platform. You will do better in Google -- and it's free. </i>
If i'll do better in Google, why use madefromnewzealand.com then?
Stephen
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2008
Posts: 47
'quote', 'italics'...there's too many!
Sam F
From: Morningside, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1187
You will do better in Google
Meaning you as a company will rank higher in Google results, not that you as a searcher should use MFNZ instead of Google.
Stephen
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2008
Posts: 47
<i> Meaning you as a company will rank higher in Google results, not that you as a searcher should use MFNZ instead of Google. </i>
Ooooooooooooh. Ta.
Sam F
From: Morningside, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1187
Don't worry. I got wrong-footed exactly the same way the first time I read it.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
Don't worry. I got wrong-footed exactly the same way the first time I read it.
Thanks for the heads-up -- I've clarified that part of the post.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
This is the best thing to hapen since ages ago.
Does this mean NZOA is gonna re-brand?
No, but I think it's a major step in NZOA taking up the opportunities offered by the internet. The NZOA board was also commendably patient about it taking a little while for Onscreen to reach critical mass.
The website was basically finished a while ago -- it's been securing the content that's been a long road, but I hope now that it's there, rights owners will see what it's all about.
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
Media 7 was great. A very good evening at the filming, and I'm sure the show will be just as much fun for those at home.
Yep -- it's striking how much it adds to the show when there's a buzz in the audience.
Graeme Edgeler
From: Wellington, New Zealand
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1509
Shame it's in Flash.
It will still be in flash, but the latest [application redacted] will at least let you save it to your hard drive...
[I'm not on commission - promise]
Robyn Gallagher
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1309
I'm at home, sick. I just watched Gloss and I loved it!
The big thing was just the pleasure of being able to enjoy an entire episode. Previously I'd only seen clips, and most of them were presented in a "Gah! Look how crazy things were in the '80s!!!!" So it's nice to be able to just get over the giant hair, shoulder pads and glasses and gleefully wallow in the drama.
It's fun seeing famous names popping up. Brad Refern is The Guy Who Did The Telecom Voiceovers For Years, Carla the lawyer is Diedre Chambers from Muriel's Wedding ("What a coincidence!"). The episode was written by Rosemary McLeod, with Maxine dressed by Trelise Cooper (in her pre-flowncy days).
Technology. We know Chelsea is a badass cool girl cos she's listening to a yellow Walkman. Every desk in the Gloss office has a typewriter. There's only one computer (probably the designer's!). In one scene, Magda is hung up on and does that phone hook tapping thing that people used to do in movies. You don't see that any more. Oh, and Commodore is one of the sponsors.
The show seems to be filled out with many actors who speak in lovely mellifluous actorly voices. I think it wasn't until Shortland Street came along (a mere 5 years later) that people felt more comfortable speaking and hearing more ordinary NZ accents on the telly.
Worst acting - Alex, played by model Brigette Berger. Especially in the scenes when she was arguing with Alistair Redfern, it sounded like someone had underlined the words in her script that she NEEDED to EMPHASISE. But she was very pretty and glamourous.
I'll tell you what's weird - seeing panoramic shots of Auckland city and not quite being able to figure out where it is because the Sky Tower isn't there as a handy becon.
Best lines:
"Brad, when are we going to tell your mother about the baby?"
"Who did your hair? A progressive kindergarten?"
"God forbid that Paris fashion should cater to a Nigaraguan [Bianca Jagger]! They're barely out of the jungle!"
Also, I love the crazy/motivated Gemma. She was my favourite back in the '80s too.
My only complaint - the split between the end of part 4 and the closing credits. It totally ruined the dramatic underscoring that the closing theme tune provided to the shocking final scene!
Also: MOAR EPISODES PLZ!
Russell Brown
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 9057
Moderator
It will still be in flash, but the latest [application redacted] will at least let you save it to your hard drive...
Graeme, it's not like you to fail to read the terms of use ...
This website is for your personal and educational, non-commercial use only. You agree not to copy, reproduce, republish, duplicate, sell, upload, download, post, transmit, distribute, broadcast, store (including, without limitation, in electronic form) or modify or otherwise exploit for any commercial purpose any video footage on this website.
I'm realistic about things being copyable if you try hard enough, but we were only able to obtain rights to the programmes on the basis that they were for viewing on screen, and not for copying. It'd be a shame to mess that up on day one ...
And besides, we know where you live.
Evan Yates
From: Hamiltron, Te Ika-a-Māui
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 171
As long as Graeme wasn't doing it for commercial purposes, the license statement appears to allow him to make copies for personal use. As a shylock himself, I'm pretty sure he would have read the terms and come to the same conclusion(?)
Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 7160
OMFG... Could some pitch a Gloss re-boot (they're all the rage) to Three, like, yesterday? Couldn't you just picture a hag-ridden Chelsea Redfern hitting middle-age with all the grace of a demented Rottie locked in a crèche. P-addled teenagers with eating disorders, a secretly gay ex, and a fading fashion rag with as many near-defamatory depictions of B-list fashionistas and media whores as the lawyers will allow.
FletcherB
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 530
I came to the same (not a lawyer) conclusion as Evan did...
If that is NOT what it's supposed to mean, it should probably be re-written.
Graeme Edgeler
From: Wellington, New Zealand
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1509
Graeme, it's not like you to fail to read the terms of use ...
I'm pretty sure it's very much like everyone...
That said, now that I've read your excerpt, I think NZ on Screen needs a new lawyer if they don't want me saving it without breacking the law :-)
Saving a video for one's personal use (e.g. so you can watch it as one documentary without waiting for each new segement to download a sufficient buffer after the earlier ones have finished) does not seem to be prohibited by those terms of use.
*Personal or educational, non-commercial - check
*You agree not to ... download ... or otherwise exploit for any commercial purpose - check.
My downloading (were I to actually do it...) would not be for a commercial purpose (and "commercial purpose" clearly applies to the whole bit).
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