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Hard News: We're Blending again

We have a new round of Karajoz Great Blend events - and it's next week! We've had a couple of details to iron out, which has delayed the announcement but we're ready to go in both Wellington and Auckland and we'd love to see y'all there.

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Graeme Edgeler
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So, on at the same time as, and rather near this then.

Will you be disappointed if people go from one to the other, and arrive late to blend?

[or should I just make my mind up which to attend?]

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Tom Ackroyd
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Go to the Blend. Download the debate on Saturday.

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Russell Brown
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Yes, very near. I won't be hurt if you want to go to the debate and then stroll over to the Boatshed.

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Che Tibby
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ouch. good clash there. might attend te papa and then bail before the more lunatic questions start up from the audience.

and yes, one of them may well be mine...

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Ben Austin
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So how does one RSVP? (Can't see an email address)

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Russell Brown
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So how does one RSVP? (Can't see an email address)

It's in the blog post, but here it is again:

Click here for Wellington

Click here for Auckland

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Don Christie
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a bit OT, are all those Cunliffe's at baa camp related?

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Russell Brown
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Okay, if you tried for Auckland and got a message saying it was full, don't fret. We figure we can fit more this time, so try again in a few minutes (ie: about 2.15) and you will be served.

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Robyn Gallagher
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I went to the new part of the museum on its open day, and it looks like a great venue, so I'm really excited about the Auckland Great Blend.

Also: Kiwi Foo Camp?! Where's my invitation, ow?

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Zippy Gonzales
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Jeez, what a choice. Colin James on the Treaty or the Great Blend? I'll reserve choosing until after the first gig tomorrow night. Worst comes to worst, I'll ditto with Che.

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Morgan Nichol
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Also: Kiwi Foo Camp?! Where's my invitation, ow?

Yeah, really Robyn, I know some folk who are going and I just don't know what the fuck the criteria were.

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Chockasunday
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Hi,

regarding the Wellington one, would it be OK if we had no music?

I enjoyed SJD at the last Auckland one, but found the music a bit distracting.

I was more interested in talking to people afterwards, but it was a bit hard to do that while a band was playing so loudly.

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Robyn Gallagher
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I enjoyed SJD at the last Auckland one, but found the music a bit distracting.

At all the Great Blends I've been to, it seems that people either want to stick around and listen to the band, or get away to a quieter spot and talk.

And usually this works really well. The last Auckland GB - at the Grey Lynn community centre - had indoor spaces where people could talk. But at the one before that - at Hopetoun Alpha, the talkers had to go outside, which wasn't so ideal.

The bands are usually awesome and very much appreciated, but sometimes it's nice to have a good old geeky conversation, and even better when you're not cast out with the smokers.

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Russell Brown
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We'll go a bit differently with the music this time - I don't expect Isaac to drown out conversation, and it'll be a DJ in Wellington.

It's always a bit tricky, because it's nice to have performances, but you don't want people scattering either. It worked brilliantly when we had the Phoenix Foundation play at the Maritime Museum, not so well at the Hopetoun Alpha.

Smokers might find the Auckland venue a little challenging: it's quite a long way down and out from the museum events centre, and they don't have their roof garden open yet.

BTW, the museum's New Zealand Decorative Art gallery will be open when people arrive - if you haven't seen that, it's got some really cool stuff.

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Russell Brown
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Yeah, really Robyn, I know some folk who are going and I just don't know what the fuck the criteria were.

To some extent, luck, and the logic you'd apply in inviting a mix of party guests: if it was done on pure merit I'd never have been invited to Foo in the US last year. It's a relatively small gathering and people do miss out. I put forward some of the names, but not everyone could be accommodated.

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Robyn Gallagher
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BTW, the museum's New Zealand Decorative Art gallery will be open when people arrive - if you haven't seen that, it's got some really cool stuff.

Including a fabric print by Public Address Great NZ Argument contributor ARD Fairburn!

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Russell Brown
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Including a fabric print by Public Address Great NZ Argument contributor ARD Fairburn!

Heh. "Contributor" sounds like I went round to see Rex with a flagon of sherry and convinced him to giz something for my book.

I wish ...

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Hadyn Green
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If anyone RSVP'd for Wellington but now can't go drop me a line please. grabtharsblog[at]gmail[dot]com

I was in an all day meeting yesterday and missed out. Stupid public sector! Stupid kids needing to be educated! (note: just a joke not an official stance)

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Tom Ackroyd
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Should I have got an email confirming my RSVP? Or is it just names on the door?

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Greg Dawson
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You should have got a confirmation to print and take with you, according to what happened to me.

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Dave Waugh
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That was an awesome event last night!
Thanks Russell & Co, you did a great job. :o)

Cheers
Dave

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reece palmer
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so what happened to you greg?

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Greg Dawson
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Hmm? Me? I was there, lurking as ever. I even dragged along a generally unpolitical geek friend to see the smart people talk about the smart things.

Main thing to take away from it for me was a complete disagreement with the consensus reached that it was "unrealistic to think that you might change the number of people who are interested in politics in any given population". It wasn't those words, but it was there more or less. And me being the optimist, as far as people go, I'm going, well, maybe we can get there.

Far as I can see it, the problem is reaching the critical number of translation nodes. Ie, converting what is appealing to pol geeks, into what is conceptionally worthwhile to the majority of the people who live in NZ. It's a big thing, but the big web changes (tech is catching up to thought, we always need more Rob McKinnons) are really only enabling a small portion of the population at this point.

Tangential:And again, grating, for me, was the continual return to "the govt must do this" to make whatever we want happen. I'm a firm believer in, we do it. We are the public, we have to make it happen.

So yes - big challenge : make the geeks capable of being the activation points for the political conciousness of all their friends.
Major risk: the middle class gets fucked over enough that they react without being informed, and we get another revolution to put the same type of people in charge. With all the pain that goes with that sort of endeavour.

Chances are you're talking about a different Greg though, so you know, whatevers.

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reece palmer
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No I was wondering about the confirmation thing, I have recieved an email from some pr saying bring money, but nothing mentioned about printing anything to gain entry.
As far as translation nodes etc are concerned, I'd say that the central focus has to be conveyance of themes and ideas in terms that are easily digestible by joe and sharon lunchbox. It has to appeal to as many as possible to be taken on board, not just by digital natives and early adopters. Now as a disclaimer before the lefty hordes tell me that I'm a heinous racist for using the word native, the term evokes people of no specific ethnic origin who are indigenous to the digital age and its inherant technologies, so there.

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Greg Dawson
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Where the major pitfall to be avoided is moving to spin doctored talking points being regurgitated by ditto heads. It's engagement, of a sort, but there's not that much difference between being disempowered through lack of knowledge, and being disempowered through lack of unfiltered knowledge.

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Russell Brown
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Main thing to take away from it for me was a complete disagreement with the consensus reached that it was "unrealistic to think that you might change the number of people who are interested in politics in any given population". It wasn't those words, but it was there more or less.

Eh? I honestly can't understand how you'd have taken that from the panel. It's certainly not my view.

The point I can't believe escaped me during the discussion is that it's all very well for geek-politics people to talk about the govt and the public sector as "they" - but who's putting their hands up to actually stand for councils or for govt?

I really wish we had a few more people like Cr Richard Simpson in politics.

Tangential:And again, grating, for me, was the continual return to "the govt must do this" to make whatever we want happen. I'm a firm believer in, we do it. We are the public, we have to make it happen.

Fer sure. I made the point that it's independent ventures - Scoop, the original They Work For You - that produce the leaps in engagement. The point - and it's kinda geeky - is that there are things the government can do in the way it presents public data that make a big difference to the way ventures like that can work.

And when it comes to things like copyright law, well, it's the people we elect to government who make it.

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Russell Brown
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Oh, and if you didn't get an RSVP thing, don't worry, just turn up at the venue - south entrance, Auckland museum, 6.30pm (from 6 is okay if you're at a loose end), tomorrow.

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