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Posted at 12:53PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

You'll have to delete your digital copy if you part company with the original CD. The sunset clause is gone. And the committee wants the bill amended "to make it clearer that copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts.

Meh. May as well ban blowjobs like they did in the State of Georgia, or was it Alabama?

Posted at 1:09PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Double Meh. I guess now rather than fighting for sane laws, we return to our position of praying for the swift demise of the current Big Media business models?

Are there still laws on the books protecting the rights of buggy whip manufacturers?

Posted at 1:21PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts

I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.

Posted at 1:55PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.

Good point. The status of shrink-wrap contracts is pretty much untested in NZ.

Posted at 2:22PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you

Posted at 2:36PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Oh, and also, the select committee seems to have missed the point on the silly ban on time-shifting programmes for which there is an on-demand alternative. So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2. Note that TVNZ specifically said in its submission that the measure was unrealistic and unnecessary. Go figure.

Posted at 2:48PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

We also recommend rewording section 84(1)(c) to clarify that a time-shifted recording must not be made from an on-demand
service.

So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site is now forbidden. go figure,

Posted at 2:51PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you

Most people aren't aware of their rights, and are easily dissuaded by statements such as "it was in the contract". As is pointed out, a contract is only a contract when both parties realise they've agreed to a contract.
</reality check> Who among us actually reads ALL the terms and conditions before ticking "I Agree" on the internet?

Also.
Funny you should bring up The Simpson's On Drugs. When my child was still toddling and going thru the Noddy phase I was struck by one particular episode called "Noddy & The Magic Powder". The naughty goblins were distributing a magic powder to everyone in Toytown that rendered them incapable of doing anything except dance. They danced and danced and danced while the naughty goblins robbed the town. Obviously the writers were up to mischief - all it needed was a stomping house beat to make their point further!

I also recently came across some YouTube vids of the old 80's TV Show Facts Of Life. It's a bit hamfisted but you gotta give 'em credit for taking on the subject of marijuanna use amongst teens. They talk about bongs, joints, roaches, and selling your Mum's stuff to buy drugs -- it's almost a "How To..."

Tootie's Bong

and

The Facts Of Life Stoned

__(One of them even features a young Helen Hunt)

Posted at 3:12PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2. Note that TVNZ specifically said in its submission that the measure was unrealistic and unnecessary. Go figure.

Maybe this problem can be solved by an ammendment allowing police discretion over whether or not to prosecute.

Posted at 3:22PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site is now forbidden. go figure

Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.

Posted at 3:38PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.

Now that would be one enchanted evening...

Posted at 3:50PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Maybe this problem can be solved by an ammendment allowing police discretion over whether or not to prosecute.

Didn't Greg O'Connor from the Police Association say that under the proposed legislation the Police would be forced to investigate each and every reported case of time-shifted recording?

Posted at 4:10PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Now I have not been accused of being a big critic of this Government, but surely this is one of the worst bits of legislation that has been passed in a long time. Something that hand over the right to make criminals of folks to the whim of corporates is just nuts. I also confidently predict that not a single NZ artist will be better off as a result of these changes.

Judith Tizard, if it is she who is still responsible for this, deserves all the brickbats coming her way.

Posted at 4:11PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Actually, I take that last sentence back. I realise this is select committee report, apologies.

Posted at 4:35PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Int Ob
Subversive story lines are fantastic.
Was the episode on vid or in a book.
I was outraged as a kid when Getafix the Asterix Druid had his name changed for the movie.
And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates & Roger the Cabin Boy?
Wrong stories for kids but brilliant for big kids.

Posted at 5:02PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates & Roger the Cabin Boy?

didn't Mikey Havoc debunk that one as urban myth a few years back??

Posted at 5:11PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Wikipedia: Captain Pugwash myth

Posted at 5:40PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

If we're going to talk about subversive children's television programmes, then the naughty Rainbow episode must be mentioned.

It was apparently made for a Christmas tape and never broadcast. But now it has a home on the intertubes.

Posted at 5:42PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

I'm still a beliver.
There is Pirate Willy & they do conceed that it sounds like Master Bates. There are other hidden meanings, like the play on words with the FlyingDustman.
To win a court cases doesn't mean it's true.

Posted at 5:44PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Robyn Gold just Gold

Posted at 7:31PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Awesome video. If only we knew where Ebaumsworld stole it from...

Posted at 8:58PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

i think it was utah ... no oral sex. imagine.

Posted at 9:32PM on 27 Jul 07. Permalink.

Any term extensions in the Bill? I've been rather enjoying the amount of Looney Tunes cartoons that are now out of copyright in NZ...

Posted at 12:04AM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

Argh! I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision...among other things.

Well, I guess our secret mole in the Committee is on progress to build a piece of legislation that will continue to force consumers to revolt and break the law. Good work!

Posted at 10:23AM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision

It may not be too bad. They'll have the right to agree with you something else, but they'll have to be pretty clear or face the wrath of the consumer guarantees act.

Posted at 10:57AM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

Didn't Greg O'Connor from the Police Association say that under the proposed legislation the Police would be forced to investigate each and every reported case of time-shifted recording?

They don't investigate car thefts or burglaries, so why should time-shifted recordings be especially privileged.

Posted at 1:22PM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

Both.

But also Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C. , according to this link

Posted at 1:44PM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

Russell said:

"So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2."

So that means that those of us who do not have broadband access to the net, would only be able to watch TV progs as they're being broadcast???!!! No time-shifting and no possibility of using the ondemand service?

Posted at 2:01PM on 28 Jul 07. Permalink.

But also Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C. , according to this link

A friend of mine who is a legal secretary in Oklahoma says it's illegal there to own more than two sex toys - that indicating intent to supply.

Posted at 11:22PM on 29 Jul 07. Permalink.

Always important to keep in mind clause 1 of our unwritten constitution.

"Laws of silliness, stupidity and downright unenforcibility shall be rendered void by the simple fact that the majority of the population will ignore them."

(Clause b does however state that cunning lawyers will endlessly extract many guineas from the halfwits who construct the nonsense in the first place - these legal chavs then go and spend the money on cheap wimmin and expensive wine, thereby stimulating the economy. Everyone's a winner)

Of course this tripe may simply be a gesture to a "Free" trade agreement with the land that sanity forgot.