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Did anybody know that the All Blacks aren't allowed to swap jerseys with their World Cup opponents after games? Lu reports in Allez Les Noirs that he ran into Portugal front-rower Andre Silva after the game in Lyon, and the big guy was disappointed:

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giovanni tiso
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The jersey thing is a bit classless, really. Unless they are laced with performance enhancing drugs or something.

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Hadyn Green
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Especially after we heard the wonderfully heartwarming story of the aftermatch football (soccer) match and Rokocoko getting a whole Portuguese strip.

The American NFL used to be pretty poor at web coverage but now you can highlights of EVERY game + interviews + special one offs + all sorts in flash format (thank god they gave up on Real Media)

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So who owns the digital rights to TRWC?
The jersey thing is so wrong. Me Dad, who is over there bless him, ended up playing for 8 (count 'em) 8 provinces, played the Lion's, played for Harlequins and all that.
We had all these choice jersey's in an old glory box that we could practice in (random selection, hmmm I'll play in Wellington colours today...). Swapping jerseys is the highest freaking honour you can give to your opponent, it says alot, let alone if a jersey ends up on a clubroom wall beside your life member inscription.
Addidas, jeebus, what the hell do they know.

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Robyn Gallagher
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And aren't socks and shorts a bit smelly?

Shirts have the armpit bits! Those new All Blacks shirts seem pretty snug and I'm not sure if I'd relish getting a shirt soaked with pit sweat.

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giovanni tiso
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So who owns the digital rights to TRWC?

The somewhat ghastly rugby world cup website has free daily highlights of each game and a subscription service where you can watch every game and all the highlights. Besides that there ought to be regional right holders too, but I'm not sure who it would be for our neck of the woods.

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Anarchangel
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To repeat the general sentiment, the jersey thing is indeed lame.

Regarding web coverage: What do the IRB hope to achieve but bad publicity? Sure sure, protecting their intellectual property, blah blah, but how do they hope to grow the game into new markets if the only way you can see it in a place like America is to spend hundreds on web coverage. If I wasn't a fan and had stumbled across a RWC reference and been intrigued, I don't think my interest would have stuck around for the hour or so it took me the other day to discover that, no, I'm not allowed to watch even five minutes of highlights of the biggest brand in world rugby putting on a try scoring display. Thanks IRB.

(Unless I'm missing something, the daily highlights are only available to RWC pass holders, ie, they're not free. Pleeeeese correct me someone!)

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Russell Brown
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The somewhat ghastly rugby world cup website has free daily highlights of each game and a subscription service where you can watch every game and all the highlights.

Where did you find the free highlights? I could only see pay-per-view video, Windows and IE only (ie: Windows Media DRM) on 24 hours delay. Full match replays are via Mediazone. It all costs $US49.95 for the tournament, or ppv $3.99 to $9.99 per match.

I've used Mediazone before, in the US, and it was a handy service, but locking up even highlights seems crappy.

The IRB is looking to protect its own revenue by denying everyone else internet video rights so it can try and sell video directly. The fans don't really come into it.

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Kyle Matthews
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We had all these choice jersey's in an old glory box that we could practice in (random selection, hmmm I'll play in Wellington colours today...). Swapping jerseys is the highest freaking honour you can give to your opponent, it says alot, let alone if a jersey ends up on a clubroom wall beside your life member inscription.
Addidas, jeebus, what the hell do they know.

I'm with you on any ban on swapping jerseys being not on. It shouldn't be compulsory, but it shouldn't be banned. Portugal played with great heart, spirit, and passion. Fully deserving of taking home a black jersey to treasure, if the All Black is willing to give it up.

I presume that, unlike a lot of less wealthy national teams, the All Blacks get a new top every game. And from the news story I saw before they left, half-a-dozen pair of shoes, several sets of clothing, hats, etc etc etc. At the very least, if they give some tops away, they won't have excess baggage on the way home.

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Anarchangel
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According to TV3, whom I queried regarding this as part of the aforementioned hour of searching, the IRB has retained all online video rights.

Besides that there ought to be regional right holders too

There isn't really any need for regional rights holders for online content.

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The silver-grey AB jerseys they will wear against Scotland would seem to be highly collectible ...

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Addidas: OK all you boys line up nicely for your shwag, bigger sizes to left, mind the camera crew, Byron, you'll be doing a little vox pop, take your shirt off on cue please. Come on coaches you get TV interview tops too you know, plus you must wear them in the stands during matches, no smiles please!
AB's: God this is demeaning, Canterbury would never have done this to us...
Ghost of Blondie; Shuddup you fool.
Addidas; Now boys, very good, don't wreck the gear, it's ours (whispers, like you are), so no giving away your tops except in our staged events for camera sessions, and then only the socks and shorts, they're yours. Count yourself lucky, HQ has told us the beards and mo's must go, but we're going to let you keep them, for now.
Have a nice day!

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giovanni tiso
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(Unless I'm missing something, the daily highlights are only available to RWC pass holders, ie, they're not free. Pleeeeese correct me someone!)

Sorry, my bad, indeed they are. I looked into it a while ago and had understood that on the day of the match they would be free.

Locking up the highlights seems indeed excessive (unless perhaps it's the sumptious extended highlights of the UEFA champions league). Besides the NFL (and NHL), the soccer world cup last year is another tournament that gave away for free, in spite of the fact they had negotiated the most expensive national rights packages ever.

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giovanni tiso
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There isn't really any need for regional rights holders for online content.

Lots of sports highlights and events can only be viewed in certain countries. The CBC coverage of hockey and the Italian Serie A highlights come immediately (and painfully) to mind. Two soccer world cups ago I couldn't listen to the Italian national radio broadcasts for a whole month (not just the game commentaries - the whole thing) because they blocked overseas listeners for the duration of the tournament.

For this RWC there is an exclusive North American web platform - I wonder if it means that people in North America can't purchase the service from the RWC website.

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Bob Munro
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Addidas: OK all you boys line up nicely for your shwag, bigger sizes to left, mind the camera crew, Byron, you'll be doing a little vox pop, take your shirt off on cue please. Come on coaches you get TV interview tops too you know, plus you must wear them in the stands during matches, no smiles please!

How long before the 'Addidas' on the right breast is nestled alongside the 'All Blacks' on the left? Even the alliteration works.

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The RWC on Mediazone is not available in UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Greece, and Cyprus. Mind you, even in in Japan, we're getting wonderful coverage through cable TV. Also ealizing that a cable package installation includes broadcasting, internet service and IP telephone services for $100 a month makes it all tast pretty sweet.

Following the cricket world cup through the internet was much easier. And the previous limited overseas series amongst Aust, NZ and England was an excellent deal through the ABC.

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While I'm on it, anyone else feel despair when the AB's are forced to do promo's for Ford and Telecom (in our house, Fix Or Repair Daily and Wankacom), would someone please negotiate for the players to get pre-script review and plain refuse to do anything promotional on TV that makes them look,
a. plain silly (the little figurines TVC)
b. totally demeaned (on the couch with Anton and friends!)
I predict a break away franchise in the not too distant future. Meanwhile, perfumed performance jersey's to come to a screen near you, providing the AB's with a sweeter smelling WC victory! by (insert brand here).

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Paul Rowe
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God this is demeaning, Canterbury would never have done this to us...

Nope, but Canterbury are responsible for the handy sports bra attachment in the Wallabies & Springboks jerseys that look so godawful....

I believe Haka has an opinion...

http://www.haka.co.nz/haka-column.php?column_name=Hard%20Yards&category=ab

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Kyle Matthews
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There isn't really any need for regional rights holders for online content.

No, not a need, but it does happen.

Yahoo has some sort of agreement to show NHL Ice Hockey games. They use ip addresses to limit it to North America. I presume that is because they've only bought rights for that region (or a TV company has, and they've pushed the online rights onto yahoo for the region).

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Richard Irvine
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While I'm on it, anyone else feel despair when the AB's are forced to do promo's for Ford and Telecom

That's not even the half of it - count how many times per ad break the All Blacks sashay into your lounge, it's feckin loads, especially in 'prime time'

I do like that one where the guy in the cardboard box gets to go fishing, to France etc with the team - surely everyone wants to do that?

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Kyle Matthews
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I do like that one where the guy in the cardboard box gets to go fishing, to France etc with the team - surely everyone wants to do that?

Where do I know the actor who plays that part from? He's familiar from somewhere else, but not being able to remember is starting to annoy me.

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