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Public Address
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 1612
Hard News: Deriving satisfaction from the misfortune of others
It rather redefines schadenfreude, doesn't it? The new pan-Christian party cooked up by Gordon Copeland and the fun-loving guys from Destiny has emerged not so much half-baked as a big sloppy mess of batter.
What's With All The Capital Letters In Tamaki's Press Release?
Is It Because He Loves All Words Equally?
I was wondering the same thing - it might represent a breakdown in our nation's primary education system .... or maybe someone told him that writing everything in all CAPS was really like shouting and he should tone it down a bit ....
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BenWilson
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 2677
Ultimately I think a strong fundamentalist Christian party serves mostly to split the vote from the wingnuts. So it hits the likes of Dunne and ACT the hardest. But this particular bunch look like they'll only be hitting themselves (and probably their children).
Go and study the ads (on all Public Address pages, but not System) and you'll get the idea. Just post 'em in the discussion.
My goodness. Disable Adblock Plus for a one-time look at PA and it lights up like a Christmas tree! Whodathought?
Although frankly, I'm not sure whether any of them surpass the comedic value of Bishop Brian's press release.
Does anyone else get creeped out by Brian's mate Richard Lewis? Every time I see him I think he looks like a man who gets into bar fights at the weekend.
Regarding the NZDT on the Mac issue... via Rod Drury's blog there's apparently a little patch that some local Mac developers have come up with to fix the NZDT issue: here. I haven't tried it myself (yet) but hopefully it will do the job.
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kowhai montgomery
From: wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 446
I Know What You Mean About The Capitalisation! Self-Important Much?
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Gary Hutchings
From: wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 92
Re: the Drury blog link, the updater is currently offline
"For the moment this updater has been removed due to problems found with Carbon/Cocoa apps"
:(,
I Just Feel Sorry For Whoever Had To Type It Out For Him.
Spelling "Parliament" wrong is something of a master-stroke in the Tamaki release as well. Love those caps.
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Jason Dykes
From: Wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 71
I feel robbed of schadenfreude. I was expecting a lot more entertainment over the next few weeks, with the party ultimately playing a role similar to that of the Brethren last election. First off I was expecting a journalist to ask who would be number one on the party list ...
Now I suppose it's back to serious issues such as interest rates.
The way this new christian party, and the previous Destiny Party, has been handled is not unusual in christian circles. If my memory serves me correctly, Destiny stated when they formed that 'God told them they would be the government in 5 years'. Therein lies the problem. They use God to justify their lack of logic and reason and to stroke their very large egos. A dangerous combination historiically.
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Brent Jackson
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 198
I LOL'd this morning when I heard on the news that the new pan-Christian party had schismed already.
So true to form ... "The Life of Brian" remake anyone ?
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Hansel Dunlop
From: Auckland, NZ
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 14
Time Zones? Linux had it sorted a few months ago. I guess that's the great thing about a system that lets everyone fix a problem and share it back.
A little schism is a fine Christian tradition.
But I didn't expect we would get to the reformation quite so quickly.
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Craig Ranapia
From: North Shore, Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 6990
Schadenfreude is a low and degrading emotion.
I'll just say this is proof that there is a merciful and loving God (and one with a great sense of cosmic irony), who really wants to be left out of New Zealand's domestic politics.
Can I get an amen!
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simon g
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 533
It seems the media have missed the point, as a former United Future MP explains:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0709/S00266.htm
It must be wonderful to believe, untroubled by reality. And Copeland's "I'm in damage control" deserves to be on any list of quotes of the year.
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Brent Jackson
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 198
So what happens if 2am Sunday week arrives without a patch? In most cases it will probably simply be an irritation. Rather than setting a time zone, you'll have to manually adjust the time on your computer.
And then do it again a week later when the old Daylight Saving time kicks in ?
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Jonty
From: Katikati
Since: Mar 2007
Posts: 60
It surprised me that Corin Dann on NatRad this am didn't followup when Copeland said, more than once, that they (he and Lewis, I presume) were reading from a different page. It begged the question: "Well, what is the point of difference?" So we could find out what they were both about philosophically or theologically or ..... well, the conversation at their meeting was probably a bit more prosaic.
Lewis: "Gidday, Gordy, how y'doin, bro? Hey, neat office, aye? Y'reckon I'll get one like this? Where d'ya reckon I could park me Harley?"
And so on.
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kowhai montgomery
From: wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 446
I'll just say this is proof that there is a merciful and loving God (and one with a great sense of cosmic irony), who really wants to be left out of New Zealand's domestic politics.
Can I get an amen!
Amen Brother, Preach It.
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Andrew Wilson
From: Aberdeen, UK
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 13
My goodness. Disable Adblock Plus for a one-time look at PA and it lights up like a Christmas tree! Whodathought?
No kidding. I'd forgotten all about ads...
What's With All The Capital Letters In Tamaki's Press Release?
Is It Because He Loves All Words Equally?
This Is Correct Punctuation For Proclamations From On High, You Heathen :)
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simon g
From: Auckland
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 533
Update: in short, Copeland & co wanted Tamaki out of the picture ...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0709/S00273.htm
Did they really think the Bishop was going to exit the stage?
Ha ha! I love Copeland. If he didn't exist, some satirist would surely have to create him.
Craig's comment about God being a sort of Supreme Cosmic Ironist (actually, that's a great title for the old sod) is on the money, I think.
For those with an interest in these things, read the Book of Jonah. Its quite short and its hilarious, if you look at it in the right way.
One of the things which doomed this whole enterprise was the former United Future christian MPs have never liked Tamaki and his followers. They were full of outrage about the rally to Parliament last term. I suspect they didn't like the competition.
The thing about the Destiny leaders is they are, in both senses of the word, charismatic. None of the former United Future MPs - Copeland, Baldock or Adams - could be called charismatic in any sense.
In short, Copeland and Tamaki has had Bambi meets Godzilla written all over it.
Does anyone else get creeped out by Brian's mate Richard Lewis? Every time I see him I think he looks like a man who gets into bar fights at the weekend.
Was it Richard Lewis who appeared in their campaign ad last election? Standing in front of a mirror? In which he cast no reflection?
And yes, this was just all over too fast, I barely had time to enjoy it.
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Andy Milne
From: Christchurch
Since: Aug 2007
Posts: 50
Speaking as a Christian, I'm HUGELY relieved the wheels have come off so quickly. The very idea of a "christian" party makes me uncomfortable, with or without Bishop B's involvement. As Colin Espiner pointed out on his blog (i'm too new at this to attempt to link to it but someone might help a brother out?), A "christian" political party kinda implies we all think the same and would vote the same. You know, just like all Maori vote for the Maori party. ;-)
In which he cast no reflection?
LOL - do we have a link to that?
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kowhai montgomery
From: wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 446
Welcome brother, Colin Espiner
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kowhai montgomery
From: wellington
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 446
Opps, I forgot the big B in Brother.
There is more at stake here than emails with the wrong timestamps. I'm the system administrator for the Blackboard e-learning system at a university, and we're going to be in an "undefined" state on 30th September.
Our servers run on Windows Server 2003, and that will change according to the new rules.
BUT - the Blackboard application uses the BEA Weblogic web/application server, and that is heavily Java based - and Sun haven't released a patch. So on the 30th I expect that the Windows clock will show the DST change, but we really don't know what time the Blackboard learning system will show. How this will affect system logs, scheduled database jobs, due dates for student assignments, etc, is not known.
I plan to log on early to check, and if necessary I can set the time zone within Blackboard to Nukualofa - for a week. That's the only time zone available going forward an hour, otherwise I'd have to set it to Eniwetok/Kwajalein (Yes, it's an American application...) but then we'd be a day behind.
Since most Americans think New Zealand is somewhere near Vermont, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised at this. And it has confirmed my growing dislike of Java, that's for sure.
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