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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Two minutes after posting this, I had a 'reply' to my email to Amazon. It was a duplicate of the last one linked to in the column, and ignores every one of my specific questions. They're really not helping themselves as far as the PR disaster goes.</p><p>So here, have?</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the love that dare not speak its name is unaffected in the Kindle version.</p></blockquote><p>It's much easier to toss a Kindle on to a burning pyre of righteousness than, say, an iMac.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:06:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Jeanette Winterson got deranked too, I assume?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:07:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jeanette Winterson got deranked too, I assume?</p></blockquote><p>Why, yes. That was the first name on the list that made me go 'oh for...'. Not the last. </p><p>Otherwise this column would have been Brokeback Amazon, or Amazon is my Washpot, or something.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:15:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I read the LiveJournal of Dave White, a Los Angeles-based movie reviewer who just happens to be gay. A few years ago he published his hilarious memoir, <a href="http://www.imdavewhite.com/" target="_blank">Exile In Guyville</a>. It's just a funny book. It's not porn.</p><p>Yet he's now on Amazon's list, <a href="http://djmrswhite.livejournal.com/381584.html" target="_blank">and he writes about it here</a>.</p>
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				<title>John Fouhy</title>
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						<p>From the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/apr/13/amazon-gay-writers" target="_blank">Guardian</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The ranking removal seemed to depend on how Amazon filed each book. The 2003 paperback edition of Fry's autobiography Moab Is My Washpot, which Amazon tags as "gay", is unranked, whereas the original hardback , filed under "memoir", has a ranking.</p></blockquote><p>Huh.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:48:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yet he's now on Amazon's list, and he writes about it here.</p></blockquote><p>Oh I like the cut of this man's jib:</p><blockquote><p>Well the good new for you is that my outrage is currently being upgraded by special victim-specialist technicians and will soon be felt for a several thousand mile radius?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:49:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh I like the cut of this man's jib:</p></blockquote><p>I've seen some pretty inspiring things over this. I read the blog of EE Knight, a pulp-fantasy author, who had this to say:</p><blockquote><p>Amazon is ass-covering for the weekend, and they'll come to their senses Monday or Tuesday and it'll be?</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Fuck me, Emma, I'm going to have to play the "get over it" guy here. Because really</p><blockquote><p>This is a good place to sew a yellow Star of David or pink triangle to your clothing, folks.</p></blockquote><p>This is bad but not quite the same as Nazism, okay? And also</p><blockquote><p>You?</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:31:39 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>This is bad but not quite the same as Nazism, okay?</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, absolutely it isn't, not even close. And I was dubious about using the quote because of that particular way of phrasing things. And if you asked him, he'd say that too, that of course it's not as bad.?</p>
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						Adding to the list of books that apparently don't have adult content according to Amazon: Ulysses, Lady Chatterley's Lover and, ahem, De Sade's Philosophy in the Bedroom and Justine (which are just about the only two books that I'd ever consider placing on a high shelf myself).
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>Apparently, it was all a database error, at least according to <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/amazon/archives/166329.asp" target="_blank">this out of Seattle</a>.</p><p>Rant: this is basically why national biometric and such databases are such a shocking idea.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Amazon managers found that an employee who happened to work in France had filled out a field incorrectly and more than 50,000 items got flipped over to be flagged as "adult," the source said. (Technically, the flag for adult content was flipped from 'false' to 'true.')</p><p>"It's no big policy?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>Brilliant piece Emma. I saw references to #amazonfail but am such a nOOb, I didn't get it until now.</p><blockquote><p>Rant: this is basically why national biometric and such databases are such a shocking idea.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I'm sympathetic to this view though there's an ellipsis in here I think needs elaboration.</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So here, have this instead</p></blockquote><p>One of these days I'm really going to have to start watching <em>Torchwood</em> . Also, is James Masters ever going to have a lover who doesn't beat him to a bloody pulp on a regular basis?</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Cynically if I was a writer whose book had been deranked, now would be the best time for me to write the wittiest blog post I could with plenty of links to places readers could buy my book as a "protest" against Amazon or at least get larger audiences to?
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote>Cynically if I was a writer whose book had been deranked, now would be the best time for me to write the wittiest blog post I could with plenty of links to places readers could buy my book as a "protest" against Amazon or at least get larger audiences to?</blockquote>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rednecks Are Not the Only Pressure Group</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, and I rather like this suggested method of applying pressure:</p><p><em>@GoodVibesSF: Wants you to tweet 140 character [uncensored] erotica/LGBTQQI tweets in honor of #amazonfail #erotica</em></p><p><br />Any takers? Emma?</p>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Emma, like you the thing that's staggered me most about this is the PR response.  No press release? No elaborately concocted explanation about screwy perl scripts or hackers? No scapegoat rogue employee?  I mean come on, they're a big company, surely their PR staff are more competent than that.</p><p>Meanwhile,?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And I'd believe it, except that, as I said, I looked at dozens of derated items and they weren't tagged 'Adult'. Can they be flagged in the DB and not have it show round the front?</p></blockquote><p>Probably; I can't think of a technical reason why not.</p><p>Database stuff up seems?</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>And I'd believe it, except that, as I said, I looked at dozens of derated items and they weren't tagged 'Adult'.</blockquote> Well, yes. I mean, Felice Picano is MIA, and yes, he's a gay author, but one of his books is about his cat, fer pete's sake.
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						<blockquote><p>@GoodVibesSF: Wants you to tweet 140 character [uncensored] erotica/LGBTQQI tweets in honor of #amazonfail #erotica</p><p><br />Any takers? Emma?</p></blockquote><p>Heh, 140 character slash-fic parody? If I'm going to take it seriously I might have to drag out something I've already written.</p><blockquote><p>Emma, like you the thing that's staggered me most about?</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>I read a comment today saying that it was as if everything you did as an LGBT person was just that much more obscene to these people. Loving, raising kids, going to work... he described as 'like walking around with an enormous technicolour penis attached to you all the time'.</blockquote>?
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						<blockquote><p>Heh, 140 character slash-fic parody? If I'm going to take it seriously I might have to drag out something I've already written.</p></blockquote><p>Oh do!</p><blockquote><p>I read a comment today saying that it was as if everything you did as an LGBT person was just that much more obscene to these?</p></blockquote>
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						Eddie, is that available somewhere?
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						<p>Well I have a copy :P.</p><p>Oh! Rather to my surprise, the VUWLR appears to have posted pdf copies of their back issues on their website.  Didn't know they did that, and they sure as hell didn't ask me if they could.  Ah well, not that I mind.</p><p>Anyway, it's?</p>
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						<p>Excellent, thanks!</p><p>My list of Things To Do includes talking to JPIL and VUWLR about one of them doing an issue centred around the Outgames human rights conference in 2011.</p><p>I understand VUWLR is going all technological these days.</p>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						God the wellington legal community is small, lol.
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						NZ is small! I really missed that when I was overseas. I like meeting people & knowing that they'll know your cousin's girlfriend's best friend.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyway, it's here:</p></blockquote><p>Cheers, Eddie. I was thinking I was going to have to work today, but that's fixed that.</p><p>Here's <a href="http://www.cheryl-morgan.com/?p=4528" target="_blank">a blog</a> on the Amazon situation with a bit of time to reflect &ndash; how it's not the end of the world, nor all okay now.</p>
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				<title>Eddie Clark</title>
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						<p>Be interested to know what you think of it, Emma and/or Mrs Skin, if you have the time to read it.  </p><p>And that blog is very sensible (as are most things said by Cheryl Morgan.  A most sensible lady).  Given that the US has no real labour laws to speak?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Be interested to know what you think of it, Emma and/or Mrs Skin, if you have the time to read it.</p></blockquote><p>Depressing, unsurprising, cogent and remarkably reasonable?</p><p>It seems it should be very easy to instruct judges not to mention sexual orientation &ndash; so you just have 'relationship' and 'partner'?</p>
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						<p>*sigh* yes, that sounds depressingly familiar, Emma.</p><p>Well, I'd better head off and do some homosexual legal work and then head home on the same-sex bus and have some gay dinner.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Given that the US has no real labour laws to speak of, I'd be very worried if I was in Amazon's PR department right now.</p></blockquote><p>Given that this is looking more and more like a PR golden shower that didn't need to happen, I'd be very worried regardless of the?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Are there people in the world who are genetically hardwired to choke rather than say "I don't know" or (even worse) "we got that wrong"?</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I'm going with 'yes' on that one. But they sure as hell shouldn't be working in PR. Or customer relations for that matter.</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>He was acquitted of one charge of stupefaction after it was alleged he used Amyl Nitrite &ndash; a drug commonly used in homosexual activity &ndash; to render the victim unconscious.</em></p><p>A drug commonly used in homosexual activity. Classy. It's possible that a change in judicidial language might also trickle through?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>...he has never, to my knowledge, identified as gay.</p></blockquote><p>I was thinking earlier that this gay-your-life-up thing has similarities to the complaint of wheelchair users that other people see the chair, not the person, but I see that unlike a boringly static physical disability we can spread the love around?</p>
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						<p>*grin*</p><p>If you go to Vic law school, I'm 95% sure said lecturer is a friend of mine.</p><p>And yes, I agree re Craig.  Where have you been these past few weeks.  I need more comments that are simultaneously obscene and crotchety in an old-manish "get off my lawn" sort?</p>
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						<p>Can there BE more than one blackboard-leaning rugby-mad gay lecturer? </p><p>I want him to model for the Outgames website. He's model material for sure.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>To be fair, I'd guess ~90% of amyl use is by gay men. It's not unfair to call it a gay drug.</p></blockquote><p>It's the implication that it's common to use drugs during gay sex that bugs me.</p>
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						<p>Yeah, Emma, I agree.  Although it's more lazy wording than malice.  "Commonly used" could mean "this drug is most commonly used during sex between men", but could equally mean "teh gayz always take drugs and shag."</p><p>Not that I think it's an excuse.  Lazy &ndash; not malice.  Sounds like Amazonfail?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And yes, I agree re Craig. Where have you been these past few weeks.</p></blockquote><p>In Wellington on holiday &mdash; and at the risk of sounding like a pretentious wanker, had a serious attack of aesthetic bliss at the Monet exhibition.  Helped by a week of wonderful weather that would have?</p>
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						<blockquote>this just put my head somewhere mysterious and wonderful for half an hour.</blockquote> Lovely jubbly. I remember being 16 and going to Wgtn Museum/Art Gallery to see the Thyssen-Bornemisza collection. It was too much for me. And living in London and going to the National for the first time. I?
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						<blockquote><p>this just put my head somewhere mysterious and wonderful for half an hour.</p></blockquote><p>That's lovely. </p><p>And speaking of having your head in a different place, if there are any other of Radio Live's listeners out there who want to contribute, please do feel free to join in the discussion here?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the Thyssen-Bornemisza collection</p></blockquote><p>I remember seeing that in Auckland and being blown away by a LOT of it &ndash; especially how TINY the Dali was ("One Second Before Awakening from a Dream Caused by the Flight of a Bee Around a Pomegranate") &ndash; it' was literally only about A4 size</p>
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						<blockquote><p>the Thyssen-Bornemisza collection</p></blockquote><p>My intermediate school arranged a trip to Wellington for the arty kids &ndash; it was just incredible. And I've been a Dali fan ever since. It was kind of surreal to see "One second..." again, 25 years later, in an exhibition in Hartford, CT.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						What do you mean <em>kind</em>  of surreal? Surely it was entirely, 100% surreal.
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						"doubly surreal"? "surreally surreal" perhaps?
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						<p>Something I missed while the whole amazonfail thing was going on (I still haven't recovered from having to get up for a breakfast radio spot yesterday).</p><p><a href="http://blog.au.org/2009/04/14/religious-right-censors-worst-nightmare-why-well-miss-judith-krug/" target="_blank">Judith Krug died</a>.</p><blockquote><p>Judith, who ran the American Library Association?s Office for Intellectual Freedom since 1967, was a life-long censorship foe who conceived the?</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>It's the implication that it's common to use drugs during gay sex that bugs me.</p></blockquote><p>Given the role of alcohol in many societies to enable 'hooking up' of all flavours especially.</p><blockquote><p>I remember seeing that in Auckland and being blown away by a LOT of it &ndash; especially how TINY?</p></blockquote>
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						er, fulled/filled English/Schminglish.
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						<p>Y'all probably saw this already, but just in case.</p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/apr/14/amazon-gay-sex-rankings-apology" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/apr/14/amazon-gay-sex-rankings-apology</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>Y'all probably saw this already, but just in case.</p></blockquote><p>It's extraordinarily generous for The Guardian to use the word 'apologises' to describe that. It's the Amazon form letter I link to in the column. Here it is in its entirety. Choccy fish for anyone who spots anything in it that?</p>
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