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Hard News: The Social Retail

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  • Zippy Gonzales,

    I'm an Aucklander with a Moore Wilson wholesale card, and I'd dearly love that company to open a branch here.

    I often thought the same, Russell. That huge empty warehouse section on the south-west corner of Wellesley St West and Nelson St would be ideal. Close enough to Ponsonby, yet central enough for the CBD commuters and dwellers, just like the Wellington centre.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Ahem. That's a classic case of needing to refresh before posting.

    And that's a classic thing to do after using the loo paper ;)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6265 posts Report Reply

  • Tony Parker,

    I have my own version of this Slightly Awkward Encounter that involves one of the few independently owned music stores left in Hawkes Bay. Used to live close and he knows what I like and would ensure I could get it. Even forgave him his Jason Mraz/Train fixation! Have moved into Napier, store is in Taradale, and don't get there as often and do find myself shopping at the CD Store, which it must be said has 2 knowledgable staff and a reasonable range of stuff. Also end up at the red shed sometimes for some of their bargains. Anyhow it's not that he comes across me in these other stores it's just I feel I'm betraying him in some way especially as he is struggling a little although he has no family to support. Unfortunately he also seems to be at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to the record companies/suppliers and doesn't get the things I want as quickly as other places if at all. It's all a bit of a conundrum really.

    Napier • Since Nov 2008 • 232 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    You've reminded me to patronise my local grocer - similar prices to the chain store grocery* but with this store you know exactly who grew what, that it's fresh and local, and that most of the time it tastes better too. Choku Bai Jo, in North Lyneham, if you happen to be round here. I'm a member of an organic co-op store, but never shop there as everything is freakishly expensive apart from tea.

    I like to think that I'm price sensitive, but willing to pay a little more to get a better experience.

    Anyone have an opinion on cleanskins? They're very common in Australia (as their export industry is much larger than ours), and I know that what they're selling for is pretty much their production cost. Once you take out the retail margin, they're a loss for the winemaker. I try and take a middle path by buying cleanskins direct from the unnamed winemakers at the local farmers market...

    *apart from their loss leaders, but I'll take those by themselves thank you very much.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • James Green,

    So, ha ha. I was describing this very blog post in the supermarket tonight (produce section), and happened at that very moment to see my go-to wine guy buying mushrooms.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 689 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    I'm not really looking to pursue the point, but Sacha corrrectly deduced my meaning.

    your point was you hid because your human? or you hid because you're not a market actor? I'm not angling for an indepth sociologocial/ psychological inquiry here, but a little depth never goes amiss.

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1685 posts Report Reply

  • nz native,

    There’s several things I dislike about supermarkets before I even get to their booze aisle’s.

    One thing is that I find distasteful is the vast majority of their staff are causal’s, even the ones doing 30-40hr weeks for months or even years. I presume it helps the supermarket profits in some ways but I think businesses should offer real jobs if they require workers to do full time hours , especially for the not so skilled in our community.

    Another thing I dislike is that their big margins or mark-ups on items are on what should be the basis of a healthy diet. Fruit and veg, the bakery, the butchery and dairy products are all heavily marked up. The crap food such as nestle type products, coca-cola and other sugar drinks, bikkies, sugar cereals and of course the booze are sold for much smaller and tighter margins. People are being encouraged through price to eat rubbish…..

    I would not be surprised if supermarkets pricing is specifically predatory towards small green-grocers, butchers and bottle shops but generally these small owner operator type business’s go to the wall when the supermarkets set up in their area. This in turn is bad news for small market gardeners, growers and other small scale suppliers.


    But back to the wine, I personally don’t think booze should be sold in the supermarkets. I say this on behalf of all the alcoholics I know and I think they should be able to shop for food without the temptation of their drug of ruin being marketed/pushed at them.

    Sure most of us have no problem with alcohol but it is pushed like no other drug and I think if you want to have it you should go to a bottle/drug shop.

    Don’t be ramming it at the addicts all the time ………………..

    Since May 2007 • 60 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I've been to my bearings, belts, chains and sprockets shop today. I got precisely the proper components plus some knowledge, (I usually have a list of questions) and we exchanged some tradesman wit, about GST.

    The other day I went to my nuts, bolds and screws shop. And, I parked, as I often do in the parking space, jointly reserved for the fastenings shop and Havana coffee costumers (Havana coffee being the one that did the honorable trade deal with the Cuban government). More-Wilson is short walk down Tory street, but Pac and Save is cheaper in almost all its inventory.

    But back on the supermarkets wineshops. Totally inappropriate IMO. What I find offensive about supermarkets selling "lunatic juice" is that they often use very young adults as cashiers, meaning the supervisor has to be called to wave there thing over the bare code reader. Can anyone explain how exactly, that sort of weird behavior, is supposed to somehow make alcohol less dangerous? Sell it in a specialist shop I say, alcohol, cocaine and heroin are for adults only. Because they are all addictive dangerous substances, that are to be consumed with caution. Hence trained alcohol retailers are more appropriately suited to distribute the grog, than kids at the supermarket. Just like pharmacists are the appropriate distributers of diastop.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Just like pharmacists are the appropriate distributers of diastop.

    A little bit too much information there Steven :)
    Could I suggest that an environment like teh supermarket could subconsciously have the effect of introducing food to be consumed with the alcohol which can be good for the binge drinker and may help to change the way alcohol is perceived.Or not.....

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6265 posts Report Reply

  • David Hamilton,

    if there is one thing PA System is crying out for, it's reader recipes. Go to it, I say.

    Hear hear.

    On my way round the south island earlier this year I was introduced to many great NZ craft beers, so for a recent party I wanted to get some of them to share with my friends. Hillcrest Fine Wines delivered. We had Emersons (bookbinder is basically my favourite beer), Renaissance, Dux, Tuatara, Moa, Epic and probably a few others, my memory is hazy. Founders (try the long black) had to be sourced from somewhere else but otherwise the selection is great.

    The owner was in a lather about DB suing Green Man over the use of the word "Radler", which they inexplicably have the trademark for in NZ. That and the practice of forcing bars into exclusive supply deals just makes me more determined to enjoy superior beer from the little guys.

    Hamiltron • Since Nov 2006 • 111 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Sofie, but what about a concept like, if meth-amphetamine was sold in supermarkets, then there would be less cases of amphetamine psychoses, because the drug would be perceived differently.

    But wait, that might actually work. The problems resulting from meth-amphetamine use have excavated since it started being called P, and was made a more seriously illegal substance. What the hell, why not sell in at the supermarket (just as long as the supervise waves there thing in front of the beeper of corse:)

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    One thing is that I find distasteful is the vast majority of their staff are causal’s, even the ones doing 30-40hr weeks for months or even years.

    [citation needed]

    Another thing I dislike is that their big margins or mark-ups on items are on what should be the basis of a healthy diet. Fruit and veg, the bakery, the butchery and dairy products are all heavily marked up

    I can totally disprove that by saying...

    I would not be surprised if supermarkets pricing is specifically predatory towards small green-grocers, butchers and bottle shops but generally these small owner operator type business’s go to the wall when the supermarkets set up in their area. This in turn is bad news for small market gardeners, growers and other small scale suppliers.

    See?

    meaning the supervisor has to be called to wave there thing over the bare code reader.

    And if anybody else does that in a supermarket they would be severely reprimanded.

    I've been to my bearings, belts, chains and sprockets shop today.

    Ah., a cyclist. Did you know the German for cyclist was "Radler"? kinde weird that DB can "Turdemark" that word

    The owner was in a lather about DB suing Green Man over the use of the word "Radler", which they inexplicably have the trademark for in NZ.

    The wireless north ;-) • Since Dec 2006 • 4869 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Amy - a drop scone, from my brief research, seems to be a pikelet.
    Pikelets are either bland or slightly sweet - they are never (in my experience, coming from a long line of Scots girdle* users) cheesy...

    *also called in good Scots a griddle - I have a girdle iron/griddle, used by my greatgrandmother (from Mainland, Orkney.)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    What the hell, why not sell in at the supermarket (just as long as the supervise waves there thing in front of the beeper of corse:)

    Or beeper of corpse. Prohibition has never worked Steven, didn't you know that? I am surprised.
    "Let them eat cake".....

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6265 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Prohibition has never worked Steven, didn't you know that? I am surprised.

    I think the sarcasm punctuation, might have gone in the wrong place. I was serious about selling Meth-amphetamine in the supermarket , as a way of it de-stigmatizing. I was joking about the teen aged cashier need to call the supervised, to do the symbolic waving of the technological thing.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • chris esther,

    (drinking a glass of nipple hill pinot from the wine vault as i type)

    I find the Wine Vault a hit or miss affair.
    Though it's good have a shop like it 10 minutes walk away.
    (Dairy pricing)

    Requiring more planning is a trip to Fine Wine on Cook St.
    Ask for Chris the man is passionate, knowledgeable and bs free.
    (Super market pricing, wider selection, range of wines perm on tasting)

    Since Apr 2008 • 13 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Don't worry, I get your drift.:) Europe tends to have alcohol all over the place and the early introduction seems to give youth a better understanding so a better understanding of other substances could surely be a good thing. I know I would love to see marijuana decriminalized at least. I am a firm supporter of maintenance programmes for othr drug use but I not so sure 'bout the meth, just because I don't like "go fast" and I suspect brains don't either. as to where? I dunno.Media 7 just stated so later dude.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6265 posts Report Reply

  • Animé,

    Mmmmm, mixing thinking with drinking.

    What I find salient in the local context, is that the Wine Vault is bit of a hike from the Chevalier, and in my mind, only compounds the AkCityCouncil's estimate of over 90% retail flight from a community of comparitive affluence to neighbouring suburbs.

    Mount Albert • Since May 2009 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    This is why we need socialism - to send surplus feijoas to places where there is real need. Feijoas are still $6.99 kg in the supermarket here

    Hilary: I am coming down to Wellington for my son's graduation from VUW on Tuesday May 19 and I would be happy to bring you a bag of feijoas. Just bung me an email.

    As a sign of the times, neighbourhood kids have been selling 10kg bags of feijoas for $5 to passing after-school traffic on Grey Street week

    Thanks for recipes to date. We substitute feijoas in Judy Bailey's Spicey Apple Cake, from The New Zealand Celebrity Cookbook (198?)

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2316 posts Report Reply

  • Mrs Skin,

    Hilary you must must must go to the Sunday market - either Waitangi or Victoria. Feijoas less than $3/kilo (I think actually less than $2 but can't be sure because that was, like, 4 days ago). Good quality too, not just the ones from the bottom of the box.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    Amy - a drop scone, from my brief research, seems to be a pikelet.

    While we're on this subject (well, sort of: obscure baked goods, anyway): why did the Edmonds Cookbook get rid of the ginger gems recipe? Is it that no one has gem irons any more? I know there's Google for my recipe needs, but I feel something has been lost...

    Seconding or thirding the 'cheese rolls rock' sentiment.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3661 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    My woodstove oven has cranked up to 200c. What should I put in it? Ginger crunch?

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

  • Andre,

    "I once had Murray Crane measure me for a suit. It was a horrible experience."

    Poor old Murray… much maligned I’m sure, Rickai. He used to hang out with us at Limbos in ChCh in 1990 (he dated the pretty young girl who worked at the pharmacy on Cashel St) and then shifted up to work selling ads at Bfm. I bought my first suit off him when he was at Zambesi Men. He was the most dapper guy out in either city and not much has changed. He can be fantastically nice to you or extremely condescending, depending on the conditions. Maybe that’s just when he’s around me though…

    "Conveniently, they have a branch in the semi-industrial no-man's-land between Porirua and Tawa. Not quite as extensive as the main shop in town, but quite a bit closer to Waikanae. I was in there this morning. But the Fresh in town is heaps better, especially since they remodelled."

    Hey Mark. I went to the Porirua Moore Wilsons a lot when I lived in Paremata but it’s just not the same destination shopping experience as the one in town. It’s ok – but just average in comparison.

    For all of you feijoa fans, how about the decision by producers to dump 3.6 miliion kilo of kiwifruit in May & June: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10565992
    Go see your local grower today...

    New Zealand • Since May 2009 • 277 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Danielle- I have a gem iron. In all my large family group. it is the only gem iron. None of my neighbours have gem irons..and I havent used it for nearly a year. Gems are good: my Nanna used to make 'em and pop a syruped apricot inside (other fillings were gooseberry or black currant jam.) Gem recipe available upon request.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    For all of you feijoa fans, how about the decision by producers to dump 3.6 miliion kilo of kiwifruit in May & June:

    I just knew I should have built an industrial sized moonshine still, when I had thought about it. I just wasn't counting on the economy slumping.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2751 posts Report Reply

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