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Up Front: Newsflash: Women Have Eyes

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  • Emma Hart,

    she said she would have almost exclusively male writers as they knew a lot more about sex.

    Ow, my brain...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    Emma, just lie back and think of Engl...on second thoughts, maybe you could just look at the pictures in Wisdens while sitting upright?

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 629 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    As long as there are turgid members amidst the stiff gins.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16476 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Emma, just lie back and think of Engl...on second thoughts, maybe you could just look at the pictures in Wisdens while sitting upright?

    Oh stephen, you know me so well. Mmm, Kevin Pietersen...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 629 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    women can't write about sex

    Kate Copstick does sound like a transvestite name.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1094 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Oo, freakishly tiny nipples...

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    It seems incredible to suggest that David Boreanaz's shirt used to come off in about every second episode of Angel because it kept the female fans happy, and yet also incredibly obvious.

    Or how about True Blood where Ryan Kwanten (Jason Stackhouse) appears to have an nudity clause in his contact -- its obligatory. I can't say that I find his adorably pert arse hard to look at -- its certainly qualified for its own SAG card by now. But despite the presence of openly gay creator/executive producer Alan Ball, I've seen little evidence that the audience (or at least the most vocal parts of the fanbase) isn't overwhelmingly straight women who have no issues whatsoever with their objectifying gaze. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Kate Copstick does sound like a transvestite name.

    Virginia Hamm is a trannie name. Bertha V. Nation. Lady Bunny.

    Kate? Not so much.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Virginia Hamm is a trannie name.

    That was Fierstein's, right? Along with Anita Man and Bang Bang Ladesh.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7351 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    That was Fierstein's, right?

    Ol' Deep Throat indeed. But 'Bang Bang La Desh? Oy... that's about as disturbing as a Bruno trailer.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    I think it's in the very same line of the play, I'd have to go and check. It's been a while.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7351 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I think it's in the very same line of the play, I'd have to go and check. It's been a while.

    It sounds entirely plausible, and you could hardly fault old school drag queens for their excessive sensitivity. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2354 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    update

    Dear Emma. Stop reading Guardian comments threads.

    Long story short; Suraya checked with the Home Office itself, I believe, and was told that what they wanted to do was legal. Even with that reassurance, the printer refused to print the second edition with 'tumescence' because it would be offensive to 'religious/women's sectors'. Note the idea of a "women's sector" which would be opposed to a magazine for women put out by a woman doing something women asked them to do.

    So Filament are having an Erection Drive. You can follow their progress on Twitter or view the Cockometer on their site.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Note the idea of a "women's sector" which would be opposed to a magazine for women put out by a woman doing something women asked them to do.

    Women's sector? Sound like a harem for fem-bots... I'm kind of conflicted about this: The printer should be under no obligation to print anything that's offensive to them, but should at least be honest and admit that "stiffies gross us out" (or, more likely, "we're afraid the publicity will cost us other work") than bullshit faux-chivalry where they're the self-appointed guardians of the delicate sensibilities of the laydeeze.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11864 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Perhaps the printers have OSH concerns that rampant tumescence could arouse their workforce and clog the machinery? Nah, they probably just fear the unflattering comparisons..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16476 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    I find these double standards infuriating. Really. The printers find erect cocks offensive but they're perfectly happy to print magazines which serve double duty as porn and educating their readers about the anatomy of the vagina, at close range? Please.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    right now, it's the most commented on thread on CiF (663 comments)

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 629 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Nah, they probably just fear the unflattering comparisons..

    You might have a point there.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2586 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    A small point. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16476 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I find these double standards infuriating. Really

    I'm almost afraid to link to this in case Jackie explodes, but here's the double standard in jarring clarity.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4340 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    The printers find erect cocks offensive but they're perfectly happy to print magazines which serve

    ...to procure said erections. Not, it's not at all ironic.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7351 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Oh good point, Gio. Hadn't thought of that particular, um, angle. And Emma, many thanks for the link to the absurd. I didn't explode but there was a lot of head shaking and FFS action.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    My first job, and may I say a bit of a paradigm shift and enjoyable one at that and educational, was in the burb of Newtown Sydney. We printed magazines. A majority of the staff were indeed NZer's and so too was the owner. Said majority also lived in the block of flats I lived in. Mornings were fun in itself just travelling to work and my first true friends that were native also worked for the Ribald Pornography Printing Co. What made me (I think) so blaze about te cock was seeing thousands of the thing flit past my eye whilst printing them. What became fun to view was when a colour run would screw up (oh the pun) and penis'es would come up blue or green,(particularly horrifying green) There was never a problem with the tits and I put that down to the lady in charge being particular about images of women so their colour would not be tarnished with the wrong brush (although her preferences for men or women were indistinguishable) Well, we printed alot of magazines that happily made it to Taylor square's newsstand every week without fail. 'Twas a great job, with perks like the 'Hookers Ball' to boot. Jus' sayin' :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 5993 posts Report Reply

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