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Up Front: Newsflash: Women Have Eyes

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  • Mark Graham,

    Wow.

    No one's asked me yet.

    And not too sure about niche magazines being recession proof.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 176 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    In a recessing market, where Playgirl has recently gone under

    Wasn't there a theory that Playgirl was never in fact aimed at women but rather at gay men, and that the proof was in the advertising? I never had occasion to verify, just throwing it out there.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7348 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    And not too sure about niche magazines being recession proof.

    I'll defer to people with more industry experience on that one. It was what her research seemed to show, though as she said (I have screeds of great stuff from Suraya I couldn't fit in) there wasn't really anything doing what she wanted to do in the market, ergo nothing to compare with.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Wasn't there a theory that Playgirl was never in fact aimed at women but rather at gay men, and that the proof was in the advertising?

    Ah, big gay fan base... I believe for a while Playgirl was the only source for naked man pics, ergo I'm sure it got picked up by gay men. They did move to having online forums though, which were populated by women, and to making porn films, which were heterosexual.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Interesting point about what chicks dig, physique-wise.

    It does sometimes seem to me that what gets presented to women as porn/erotica for them actually looks like porn/erotica for gay men, at least in its solo form.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I've wondered if they're really that interchangeable.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18663 posts Report Reply

  • Aidan,

    I think Singh may be from New Plymouth, not Palmy.

    (Don't want the `Naki to feel .. umm .. shafted ..)

    Canberra, Australia • Since Feb 2007 • 144 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I think Singh may be from New Plymouth, not Palmy.

    (Don't want the `Naki to feel .. umm .. shafted ..)

    Oh shit, you're right, it says so right there. I'll go fix that. And, um, put it down to the fever I'm currently running.

    Interesting point about what chicks dig, physique-wise.

    Yeah... sometimes I have to remind myself I'm not a heterosexual woman and I shouldn't be speaking for them, probably. What she's talking about seems to be more James Marsters than David Boreanaz, and they both have their fan bases, straight and gay. But traditionally, men in erotica (even Mills and Boon covers) have tended to be more of the Boreanaz type. (Except all that long hair those men traditionally have? Do make their faces look longer and more feminine.)

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Heh, also in the interests of full disclosure I should mention that I got this interview in the most Kiwi of ways. Suraya is an old friend of an ex-flatmate of mine, and like Corset-Making Jo, she's ex-KAOS. I'm starting to think that organisation is actually GOOD for people.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    Any chance Richard Worth is the sneaky centrefold of the first issue?
    Ya know, just asking...

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1721 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    Actually, I'm pretty sure that the last time I saw Suraya in the flesh was at a party where the person she came with ended up taking pictures of my nipples. I seem to recall consenting provided I got a few bob when the pictures inevitably ended up on the internet. This was in the aftermath of my brief history as an (inadvertant) model on a german gay porn website, and I was determined that while I didn't mind this sort of thing happening, I at least wanted to make a couple of bucks off it.

    Disclaimer: I went to uni with Suraya. Though we did run into her at parties in the UK, based on mutual (English) friends-of-friends, proving that there is some odd flocking behaviour going on all over the place.

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 708 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I seem to recall consenting provided I got a few bob when the pictures inevitably ended up on the internet.

    Awesome. Which one is you?

    (In the large photos there you'll be able to tell that the guy on the cover has dirty bare feet. Woof.)

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Saw story about Suraya's "thinking woman's crumpet" over the weekend. KAOS, eh? Hot.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16436 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Hot.

    Not wishing to be objectifying or anything, but fucking ay.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I'm thinking Jack must be quite hot too.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18663 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Oh. Totally not.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18663 posts Report Reply

  • 81stcolumn,

    Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I've wondered if they're really that interchangeable.

    Personal experience suggests not.......

    Chicks don't dig me but........

    Nawthshaw • Since Nov 2006 • 719 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    Disclaimer: I am not, nor have I ever been, a model in this magazine. I'm more just confirming that I would have been if I'd been asked. ;) The gay German porn site thing is true, though, but it's totally unrelated. Actually, it was a piercing fetish website run by a group of German guys, so I'm not sure you'd really call it porn, but the story sounds better that way.

    Frankly, I am not the typical phenotype for models from this publication. I'd be a bit more suited to appearing in publications with titles like "Big and Beardie" or "Long-Haired Hippy Layabouts".

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 708 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    2nd disclaimer: I am not, nor have I ever been, a cabinet minister. Though I did used to get his crank calls back in the 90s when I was a student (he had an unlisted number, I didn't = late night calls from drunk people wanting to annoy the minister of police).

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 708 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    The best Auckland KAOS hit I saw was dropping a cardboard fridge box on someone in the quad from the infamously hazy student common room. These days, it'd be a Youtube phenomenon.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16436 posts Report Reply

  • Xeno,

    Heh, also in the interests of full disclosure I should mention that I got this interview in the most Kiwi of ways. Suraya is an old friend of an ex-flatmate of mine, and like Corset-Making Jo, she's ex-KAOS. I'm starting to think that organisation is actually GOOD for people.

    Not wanting to be presumptuous, she's more of a new friend than an old friend, she had been and gone from Vic KAOS before I got to Wellington. We have a bunch of people in common.

    Of course, in the most Kiwi of ways, I've been passing the link to women who post pictures of pretty boys on the internet, many of whom I used to know at Uni.

    Since Oct 2008 • 25 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Frankly, I am not the typical phenotype for models from this publication. I'd be a bit more suited to appearing in publications with titles like "Big and Beardie" or "Long-Haired Hippy Layabouts".

    Ah. You're a bear.

    My friend Dave in London used to look with great lust at pictures of the Grateful Dead. No, really.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18663 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    This may just about definitively prove that I'm not a woman, but is it me, or is Filament in fact the *least* sexy word in the English language?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7348 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    This may just about definitively prove that I'm not a woman, but is it me, or is Filament in fact the *least* sexy word in the English language?

    Not quite - that'd be 'moist', or 'turgid' or something, but I did wonder. Suraya says:

    A filament is:

    * the bit of a light bulb that lights up.
    * the part of a flower that holds the male reproductive stuff.
    * the largest structure in the known universe.

    (Stamens have two parts, a filament and an anther. The biology nerd in me twitched.)

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4335 posts Report Reply

  • Alan Perrott,

    So it's flowery word for knob?

    Now that's class.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 306 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    This may just about definitively prove that I'm not a woman, but is it me, or is Filament in fact the *least* sexy word in the English language?

    Feel free to post your alternatives.

    I'm quite curious to see what people suggest.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2344 posts Report Reply

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