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OnPoint: Budget 2010: What’d you expect?

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  • Don Christie,

    (Isn't Sacha a boy?)

    Oh right. Stereotype someone whilst they are down, why don't you...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1616 posts Report Reply

  • Julie Fairey,

    But does he believe in magic ponies?

    Orcland • Since Dec 2007 • 217 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Well, spending on children's education has been cut, but at least they'll have roads of National significance for decades to come.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    From a quick look at the disability budget increase it seems the bulk of it is going to providers (private or NFPs) of residential, respite or home and community support. I just hope there is some incentive to make sure it really goes to better pay,training and conditions for the actual workers. And with some way for the auditing of that to be done by consumers.

    There is a new peak body of providers and it looks like they have had a big influence on the Minister. A lesson there for others in the sector.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 2096 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Hey, Sacha. Fancy a tipple at 6?

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    (Isn't Sacha a boy?)

    i consider myself an equal opportunity sexist.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2026 posts Report Reply

  • Keith Ng,

    Nono. Hold onto the pony, cover your pony mortgage and expenses entirely from renting it out, and then sell it off with a big capital gain.

    Depends on interest rates.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 535 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I thought you were against argumenti ad hominem.

    Go pick up that bait your lobbed at my head before it leaves a blood stain on the carpet, that's a good chap.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12034 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    my favourite spectacularly disingenuous Budget reax

    Just thought I'd take the chance to agree with you, Craig. :)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    Well, spending on children's education has been cut, but at least they'll have roads of National significance [to whore themselves on as adults] for decades to come

    will be interesting to see how many parents are forced out of work by the cuts to childhood education subsidies.

    one of my workmates has decided against more children for that very reason.

    pity you can't just let the little fckers out to roam around a paddock like you can your average equine investment.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2026 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Rich justice. Blue Chip douchemeister Mark Bryers gets 75 hours community service and $37,500 fine but is bankrupt so presumably doesn't have to pay it and is living well in Aus, thanks very much.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16755 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Hey, Sacha. Fancy a tipple at 6?

    Sorry, been in the kitchen. Might be cutting it a bit fine for me tonight.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16755 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Okay.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Rich justice. Mark Bryers gets 75 hours community service and $37,500 fine but is bankrupt so presumably doesn't have to pay it and is living well in Aus, thanks very much.

    That's the New Zealand justice system for you. Meanwhile, National are spending billions more on new prisons, and have allocated more money so they can plan further prisons.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    For those wanting

    ponies :(

    I was expecting ponies.

    A "pony" is slang in Britain for a five fivers, or 25 pounds.

    So, about $52.75. How's that line up with your expectation?

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 225 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen,

    the suspension of payments to the super fund

    note these have now been extended another two years to 2018

    Nice of them to choose to not save for our retirement.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3417 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    Although you'll have got a Monkey or three if you're in the top brackets. (One monkey=20 ponies)

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 225 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    A pony used to be a very small glass of beer (5 oz. IIRC.)
    I dont even expect that much from the current government...

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Thought I'd better edit to clarify who Bryers is

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16755 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Sorry, been in the kitchen. Might be cutting it a bit fine for me tonight.

    Well what about 6.30, same pub, same peoples :) I gotta get the gas bottle filled for the heater so running late.

    3410, take note. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6267 posts Report Reply

  • Mike Graham,

    I thought that part of National's cunning plan was to equalise the top personal rate and the company rate, it has been reduced from 8% to 5%, but that is still quite a gap.

    After all the bleating about the borrowing that is going on, the Govt now has to borrow to pay for these cuts. I guess it would never come from this flavour Govt, but a top threshold of say $150,000 with a 38% rate would have taken care of the borrowing (If Idiot/Savants numbers are correct, and I have no reason not to believe them).

    @Sacha - agreed re Bryers. What is the point of handing out a huge fine to a bankrupt? Bizzare.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 202 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    a top threshold of say $150,000 with a 38% rate would have taken care of the borrowing

    You want somebody who earns* over 150k to pay five more cents in every dollar earned above that bare subsistence amount? You monster!

    *(that's got to be a term used quite loosely when you're that rich)

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7386 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    they did equal it with the trust rate though didn't they? that will probably stop a lot of middle class rorts instead

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2173 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    After all the bleating about the borrowing that is going on, the Govt now has to borrow to pay for these cuts.

    And yet Vernon Small tells us that the budget is "impressive" and "stunning" budget for debt reduction.

    It's only because Labour was so fiscally prudent that National can afford to rack up the debt again.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    You want somebody who earns* over 150k to pay five more cents in every dollar earned above that bare subsistence amount? You monster!

    And as Lyndon Hood points out

    Seems for his tax cuts Key's example is a young couple, just got married, on $50 000 each. #nohashtagcandojustice

    It's a nice world Key lives in.

    The People's Republic of … • Since Nov 2006 • 2136 posts Report Reply

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