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Hard News: And we may never meet again ...

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  • Dave Patrick, in reply to DexterX,

    The band was Mondo Rock - I remeber that Eagle Rock 'event" it was classic.

    The Angels played on the Friday as I recall.

    Mondo Rock - that was them.

    Was that the Angels gig where someone chucked a (full) can at Rick Brewster, and he just carried on playing, head down, sunglasses on (at night), blood streaming down his face?

    Just like 0:54 in this one...

    The Angels always put on brilliant live shows, I could never understand why it was AC/DC that went on to international fame, and not the Angels (well, apart from Doc Neeson being notoriously hard to deal with, that is....)

    Rangiora, Te Wai Pounamu • Since Nov 2006 • 232 posts Report Reply

  • Aidan, in reply to Paul Williams,

    Aidan, the Church had an ok song? Under the Milky Way is brilliant.

    I was being ironic. No tag for that.

    Canberra, Australia • Since Feb 2007 • 143 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Aidan,

    I was being ironic. No tag for that.

    Apologies for missing it, glad we agree.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2191 posts Report Reply

  • Hamish.MacEwan,

    > But, by the same token, it does irk me when people who'd scream blue murder about someone breaching the letter of the GPL seem to act as if the creator's right is valueless.

    The GPL is a public good, IPR is a private monopoly.

    I'd react differently to them too.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 10 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    the sound of chugging riffing guitars, stop it you taking me back.
    And its only flash's now.
    Newcastle RSLfucking stairs, Leagues clubs, the Tivoli, Dee Why pub, Frenchs
    The Hopetoun. Des Truction playing C&W. Balmain on a sunday Selinas
    Rollerskating Disco oh dear.....


    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1159 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Peter Darlington,

    I also have a theory that it destroys music for the grabber. If you nabbed the 70GBs of music off one of my hard drives you'd have an instant ridiculously good (ahem) music collection but it would be a hard thing to penetrate. Gems would be lost, whole back catalogues would be rendered valueless and unlistened. Part of enjoying music is the finding, researching, the context of place and time, and always the listening.

    Yes. And that goes for legitimately free content as well. With Kindle-like products (and possibly the Kindle as well) you can download thousands of out-of-copyright classics for free and a friend was just telling me the other day he had done so. Good on him, but... how is he ever going to read any one of them? The obsession for whole back-catalogues kills your actual listening or reading I suspect.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7320 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    This is a matter that truly interests me- when the Kobo came stacked with a hundred free books (mainly from Guttenberg) *which couldnt be deleted* – I perused the titles…some I had; all I didnt have, I didnt crave- so, why would I bother to buy such a thing? If that was the main attraction? (Wont go on about how limited the Kobo is in other matters…)

    I buy CDs & dvds frequently, and I have never yet bought anything from i-Tunes.
    I know my especial – & wide- tastes, and get new input from both younger and older family members. I really dont want *everything* from Bessie Smith or
    Jimmy Buffet – *and* all catalogue details. I just want the music bits I love-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • JP Hansen,

    Aussie Rock, eh?

    Ocker Rocker royalty (plus N Finn and apparently D Dobbyn) cover Gimme Shelter at some 80s Live Aid type thing - hilarious.

    Waitakere • Since Nov 2006 • 199 posts Report Reply

  • JP Hansen,

    Oh, one more given Finn & McGlashan covering Throw Your Arms.... This is fun...

    And Adam Hills' talk show was great. Finally fills that Rove gap. Or so my Aunty in Australia tells me.

    Waitakere • Since Nov 2006 • 199 posts Report Reply

  • Rickai,

    As good as it gets.

    Since Jan 2007 • 36 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Llewellyn, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Although Gary Steel mentioned a digital-to-analog converter that you can buy as an iDevice accessory -- it bypasses the built-in converter and the results are apparently very good

    What is this wonderful sounding device? If there is a magic box available to make ipod music sound better - do tell!

    Mt Albert • Since Nov 2006 • 399 posts Report Reply

  • Ethan Tucker, in reply to Peter Darlington,

    On a side note, I was at a friends 50th party a few weeks ago. He had his decks set out and when he dropped the new James Blake single (Limit to your love) on brand new shiny vinyl and that big bass drop kicked in, we all fell about high-fiving like teenagers.

    Cool! At the risk of (justifiably) being labelled a skite, I was lucky to see him perform it on Tuesday at the recording of this week's Later with Jools Holland. You could hear a pin drop in the studio - it was great. And it was slightly surreal to see R. Kelly (who is not, I dare say, a fine and upstanding gentleman, but anyway) nodding along to it from his allotted stage, 10 metres away. As for the other artists, Adele was as polished and appealing as expected. Here's a brief write-up; I'm looking forward to seeing the full-length hour tonight.

    Wellington • Since Apr 2008 • 105 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to Rickai,

    As good as it gets.

    Yeah but a lot of it went over the general populace's head. And CC were populist.
    Fuck listen to me!

    It was odd but a wonderful collision of artistic endeavour and....a population looking for a good time. As its said Woohoo!

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1159 posts Report Reply

  • kiwicmc,

    One of my Aussie faves

    I have it on vinyl somewhere in a box in my dad's garage - probably now a warped, cracked mess. Everytime I go home I look at the boxes but daren't open them...

    On the H&C front it has taken me about 25 years to realize that "The Slab" is an ode to cunnilingus...

    Sydney, Australia • Since May 2008 • 60 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to andin,

    Des Truction playing C&W.

    The Slaughtermen? I didn't ever get to see them but I'm told they were great.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3201 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Dave Patrick,

    Yeah that happened Brewster did the whole gig - shit it used to make me cringe - you would go see a gig and some out of his mind cock head would throw a can of beer at the act - I saw it happen to Lou Reed in Auckland.

    With the Angels at Sweet Waters they did most of Dark Room making most eveyone else that weekend look soft and flulffy.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I endorse earplugs and if they fall out or you forget them then compressed tissue paper, provided you have them, create an adequate substitute.

    Either way your ears make the adjustment and you get to enjoy the music without the damage.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1174 posts Report Reply

  • Tamsin6, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Love this thread! Will have to read it again when I am home from work so I can see some of the You Tube stuff blocked here...

    A few interesting developments with Spotify in the past few weeks -

    http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2011/tc2011055_645076.htm

    Be interesting to see what happens next.

    London • Since Dec 2007 • 123 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    The Slaughtermen?

    That was it. And yes they were great live.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1159 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Gig legs, giggles...

    Newcastle RSLfucking stairs, Leagues clubs, the Tivoli, Dee Why pub, Frenchs
    The Hopetoun. Des Truction playing C&W. Balmain on a sunday Selinas
    Rollerskating Disco oh dear.....

    ...Bondi Lifesaver, The Civic, Blacktown RSL, some bar in The Cross...
    - weirdest lug - packing into the Newcastle RSL (oh the stairs, indeed) as Les Girls (or similar) packed out.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 4555 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Hosking,

    "Throw Your Arms Around Me" is the "Ke Sahn" for a generation of Aussies. Hearing every person in a packed, drunken train trip from the races at Flemington singing it word perfect, strangers singing the harmonies together - made me a bit (for a moment) jealous that Australians have such a perfect song for that type of sing-a-long.

    Paul Kelly's recent book mentions going to a Hunnas gig sometime in the mid-1980s and the crowd singing along to 'Say Goodbye'. He marvels at a room of 1500 out-of-it Aussie blokes roaring out 'You don't make me feeel....like I'm a woman anymore'.

    And here's a gem of a song from both Paul Kelly and Mark Seymour. Great theme from a very bad fillum:

    South Roseneath • Since Nov 2006 • 802 posts Report Reply

  • Scott A,

    Oooh, a H&C thread! And combined with copyright too! And, that's convenient, 'cos they sorta merge for me. I was a huge Hunters and Collectors fan back in the 80s / 90s, but over time the only CD left in my collection were "Collected Works" and a couple of later ones (because Slow Boat, understandably, never wanted to buy those off me).

    Then last year I saw that documentary about the Human Frailty album; and it refreshed for me how amazing that "thinking blokes look at falling in and out of love" album was. In particular, I reminded me of this song, which is probably my favourite H&C track after "Talking to a Stranger":

    Well, watching the doco, made me decide I really needed to get back in touch with some of those earlier H&C albums. But, late on a Sunday night, I couldn't find a legal download of Human Frailty that worked. But I did find a torrent...

    ...so I stole the album. Listened to it. Fell back in love with it, immediately, and, at the next moment I was able to went and bought the album, and other early H&C works too.

    If it wasn't for that ability to get the album immediately (either legally or not) then I might've got distracted from everything else in my life and just forgotten about chasing up on those albums.

    And that's the pattern for me - the internet has allowed me to reconnect with older music, discover new music, because it allows the freedom to explore and to risk the new. And while I would always prefer to pay for it, if there isn't an accessible legal option, I won't shy away from the other options. But I wouldn't need to do that if the legal option had been available.

    The wilds of Kingston, We… • Since May 2009 • 118 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Ethan Tucker,

    Here's a brief write-up; I'm looking forward to seeing the full-length hour tonight.

    What struck me most about that article from Jools Holland was the 'Adele (305,000 followers)' etc. So, if you're not basically a religion, you're not there yet? Actually, I think Adele is worthy of some of the accolades, but then there's the 'Charlie Sheen (3,803,594 followers)' factor.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Darlington, in reply to Ethan Tucker,

    Cool! At the risk of (justifiably) being labelled a skite, I was lucky to see him perform it on Tuesday at the recording of this week's Later with Jools Holland. You could hear a pin drop in the studio - it was great.

    Thanks for that, yes I'm jealous. I reckon James Blake does silence and physicality incredibly well, would've been amazing to see him live to see if he can achieve that same quiet intensity live.

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 883 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Darlington, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Yes. And that goes for legitimately free content as well. With Kindle-like products (and possibly the Kindle as well) you can download thousands of out-of-copyright classics for free and a friend was just telling me the other day he had done so. Good on him, but... how is he ever going to read any one of them? The obsession for whole back-catalogues kills your actual listening or reading I suspect.

    Exactly. I don't know about anyone else but I need to work some stuff out in my head before I can make a decision that I need to keep it. Just stacking up GBs of content because I can seems fairly pointless. I know people that search by the music label on the torrents and just grab the lot. Pointless.

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 883 posts Report Reply

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