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  • nzlemming,

    Sadly, hair probably was one of the highlights of the 80's...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2106 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    I would be there in person supporting it for the fact that I have a PhD to hand in at the end of the month... and who knows anything about Endnote??

    But this issue sails close to 'well he looked like a poof / acted like one so we beat him up.' WTF? So you have my full support.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Lara,

    I'll be traveling up to Welly for this (and also to catch up with some particularly lovely friends). Looking forward to that weekend very very much.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2009 • 75 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Christopher Dempsey,

    But this issue sails close to ‘well he looked like a poof / acted like one so we beat him up.’

    Well, yes. Isn't it funny how slut-shaming rape culture and the culture that says fags and trannies are just asking to be be kicked to death are joined at the hip?

    And, sorry guys, but challenging rape culture is no more woman's work than doing the washing up.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11995 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Just a reminder that this is Wellington in winter. Neither frilly parasols nor big hair last long in horizontal southerly rain.

    (Christopher, avoid Endnote if you have managed to so far. Do a manual bibliography even if it covers 40 pages. I was having so much trouble with my Endnote - incomplete refs, duplicates and inconsistent alphabetisation - that I turned it into a word doc for manual editing in the last couple of weeks before handing in.)

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 2087 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah,

    I've linked to Catherine Deveny's piece about slutwalk over at The Lady Garden, but I think it's worth linking to from here too: Slutwalk: for the free woman in all of us.

    And this one is doing my head in, mostly because it was linked to from Arts and Letters Daily, which in Denis Dutton's day did seem to regard feminism as a very dirty word indeed: Slutwalks and the future of feminism, by Jessica Valenti.

    (@Christopher... what Hillary said about Endnote. Right down to reverting to a word document to get it all looking okay.)

    Manawatu City • Since Nov 2006 • 1314 posts Report Reply

  • Megan Wegan, in reply to Deborah,

    That is a great piece.

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1273 posts Report Reply

  • Lara,

    +1 for no Endnote. Far more trouble than its worth. A friend of mine had it corrupt last year and lost all her references (for an essay, not a PhD, but...)

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2009 • 75 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Deborah,

    Slutwalks and the future of feminism, by Jessica Valenti.

    Makes some very good points, not least that SlutWalk is another protest movement proving Malcolm Gladwell wrong about digital activism. There were ten people in that initial audience. The internet let them mobilise thousands. That's how this movement spreads from country to country, and it's only the real-world logistics of getting permitting and organising march routes etc that mean it hasn't happened faster.

    It's particularly poignant to me, because I have a very dear Sister in Sluttitude who lives in Toronto. This is something she and I can do "together", even though we've never met.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4366 posts Report Reply

  • Megan Wegan, in reply to Emma Hart,

    And a couple in Wellington.

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1273 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Patrick,

    A link I like - A guide to How to Avoid Rape especially for men
    http://disillusionedkid.blogspot.com/2005/12/how-to-avoid-rape.html

    Rangiora, Te Wai Pounamu • Since Nov 2006 • 237 posts Report Reply

  • Isabel Hitchings,

    This might be the place to link to an interesting Canadian public health campaign about alcohol and rape.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 705 posts Report Reply

  • Heather Gaye, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,

    Awesome link, but oh god, I followed the "a rebuttal" link from the comments & started smacking my head against a desk. The poor innocent men are now apparently required to police themselves *and* their friends, while crazy females are allowed to run irresponsibly rampant. OH THE WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE

    Under the western motorwa… • Since Nov 2006 • 523 posts Report Reply

  • Isabel Hitchings, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    I had my mouse poised over the rebuttal link then decided that I just don't need that in my head and managed not to click.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 705 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Deborah,

    I’ve linked to Catherine Deveny’s piece about slutwalk over at The Lady Garden, but I think it’s worth linking to from here too: Slutwalk: for the free woman in all of us

    “Because you’re not allowed to rape sluts either” beats my older sign (“Tits out for the sluts”) hands down. Plus I don’t have to get my tits out in a Wellington winter. Sara is right, by the way, Emma – there are some things the world is just not ready for. #markstitsaretwoofthem

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2106 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    I made the same mistake. This part from the “rebuttal” tells you all you need to know about their agenda:

    Sexual offenses are like all the other social pathologies we know of: they are largely caused by fatherless households. But that message, which emphasizes the importance of men in the lives of their children, doesn’t play well among the progressives who control the sexual grievance industry and who think of men as not only disposable but as far more trouble than they are worth.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1154 posts Report Reply

  • Gee, in reply to Dave Patrick,

    Thanks for sharing that.

    Thanks to Emma for talking about this more. My city's Slutwalk was two days ago, and I missed it, *because there was no publicity*. Hope you get a giant crowd.

    Canada, eh • Since May 2011 • 75 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale, in reply to Emma Hart,

    I'd like to see ONE discussion where people talk about what they - and everyone else - can do about rape prevention.

    I know at least one person who volunteered with Men Stopping Rape. They did things like going into schools and having group discussions with (preteen?) boys, talking about topics such as Mindreading Doesn't Actually Work. Seems like a fantastic idea.

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 457 posts Report Reply

  • Megan Wegan,

    Even just the 4 comments from that story are hilarious. "It's good, but why do you have to be so vulgar?", woeful point-missing and catholic bashing, a "drink responsibly bingo tile", and of course, the rebuttal, which no power could get me to click on.

    Welly • Since Jul 2008 • 1273 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Lara,

    +1 for no Endnote. Far more trouble than its worth. A friend of mine had it corrupt last year and lost all her references (for an essay, not a PhD, but...)

    If you have time to adapt, I strongly recommend Mendeley Desktop. Free, backed up online, compatible with Word and Open Office, and generally excellent. It's a little touchy about accurately picking up details from pre-1980s papers (because all the PDFs are from scanned pics, I think), but that's the only real downside.

    Amherst, MA • Since Nov 2006 • 2093 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    Thanks all for comments on Endnote and tips on other programs. Endnote is proving far more hassle than it is worth... will *try* export the bib to a word document - perhaps put it in excel format then export to word and remove lines... Sorry for the threadjack.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    The poor innocent men are now apparently required to police themselves *and* their friends, while crazy females are allowed to run irresponsibly rampant.

    Widdums... really tempted to front with this sign: MANSLUT - OWNING MY PENIS SINCE PUBERTY

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11995 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    New sign: "With great willy comes great responsibility"

    I'm sure Stan Lee won't mind. ;-)

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2106 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    I'll probably go with a sign saying "You know, I'm dressed as a slut, too" and wear what I always wear.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1039 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey, in reply to Tom Beard,

    I’ll probably go with a sign saying “You know, I’m dressed as a slut, too” and wear what I always wear.

    Heh. That's a good idea. Perhaps I could wear my grandmother's clip on earings just to confuse the hell out of the media?

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 642 posts Report Reply

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