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  • Don Christie,

    content creators are, as I noted, thin on the ground

    Well, no. My company, Catalyst IT, creates thousands of lines of "content" every single week. I really do object to not being included in the sector that has interest in content creation and therefore issues of copyright etc.

    That said, it is a sad that members of the film and music sectors in particular may not be attending. This is a reflection of many in those industry's inability to harness business models that their consumers are demanding.

    I will be at Nethui, as a sponsor and a member of the Internet NZ council. Very much looking forward to catching up with folks, and congratulations to Vikram and his team for putting together an event that has been so heavily subscribed.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    So that's why .nz domain names are $35-40 a year, while .net .org or .com names are only $15-20.
    Hm.
    Good information. It should be clear to people what they're paying for.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 1463 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Don Christie,

    Well, no. My company, Catalyst IT, creates thousands of lines of "content" every single week. I really do object to not being included in the sector that has interest in content creation and therefore issues of copyright etc.

    Fair call.

    That said, it is a sad that members of the film and music sectors in particular may not be attending. This is a reflection of many in those industry's inability to harness business models that their consumers are demanding.

    It does seem to me that perhaps the hand could have been more actively extended. RIANZ has a new CEO, Chris Caddick, who seems less combative than his predecessor, and it would have been good to have musicians and film-makers there to talk about their work -- I thought the presence of artists at this year's Webstock really brought something fresh and useful to that event.

    Perhaps next year.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • Gary Hutchings, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Although the recent ".everything" decision will probably see the eventual demise of many of the traditional domain space monopolies, (although the $200K price will mean it will be a rather slow death)

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 108 posts Report Reply

  • maupuia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    – I thought the presence of artists at this year’s Webstock really brought something fresh and useful to that event.

    I know you've found it fresh and useful EVERY YEAR :)

    But yes, having actual artists talk about how they use the web, as opposed to strategists, commentators and social media gurus was refreshing and enlightening. For those of us wrapped up in the web, it's often easy to forget that it's (just) a tool most for most people that they use to get stuff done.

    Wellington • Since Feb 2011 • 2 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd, in reply to Gary Hutchings,

    That suggests a good thing would be a long term plan to pay heavily into a foundation now to continue funding ISOCNZ's work when that revenue from names has dried up. (I confess I'm ignorant here and such a plan may already exist).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • izogi,

    It would be fair to say that not all .nz registrants -- let's say rianz.co.nz and apra.co.nz -- appreciate their fees being used to lobby in this direction

    Not everyone appreciates everything the government spends their taxes on, either. Let's just say that the RIANZ and APRA fees were fully funding something done by Internet NZ worth about $50 which they liked but everyone else hated. To be honest I'm not sure what that would have been, though.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    So that’s why .nz domain names are $35-40 a year, while .net .org or .com names are only $15-20.

    This obviously gives lie to the idea that INZ somehow has a "natural monopoly" on domain names.

    What is also important to note is that wholesale fees have been falling in real terms year after year. The last actual reduction was last year. .nz domain names wholesale at $15/year.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Rowan Crawford,

    For me the decision on whether to attend went something like: "Lessig's talking? Stand aside or lose a limb!"

    Auckland • Since Oct 2008 • 21 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY, in reply to Rowan Crawford,

    For me the decision on whether to attend went something like: "Lessig's talking? Stand aside or lose a limb!"

    That is a big reason for my going. That and I get three days out of the office to meet loads of interesting people and still get to claim it is work-related.

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 789 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Don Christie,

    This obviously gives lie to the idea that INZ somehow has a “natural monopoly” on domain names.

    They do actually use the phrase "natural monopoly" themselves with respect to .nz -- and accurately, I think. Only one party can be delegated a ccTLD.

    The really important change after the 2000 coup was opening up the retail side. When you think of how it could have been with Domainz, I think things have gone pretty well.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    My auntie sent it to me on VHS

    You kids with your file sharing...

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1721 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I might be wrong, but think that for US domains, anyone can get some sort of delegated registration authority and register as many names as they want for a fixed fee. So they do crap stuff like detecting when someone googles a domain name and immediately registering it so they can sell it on.

    It's a fact though, that the cost of registering domains tends to zero as volume increases. One rationale for charging a high fee is that it prevents names being squatted on.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4413 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Brislen,

    Get Vikram to tell you the weirdness of how they got to play the doco... then we can talk about copyright and where this whole shooting match is going.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 172 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Only one party can be delegated a ccTLD.

    Yes, but there are plenty of ccTLDs to chose from. PublicAddress uses .net for example. Others are using .tv, .ly and .co

    What INZ and their subsidiaries have done is set up a system of governance and transparency that makes .nz one of the most trusted ccTLDs in the world. That's one of the many reasons I am so proud to be associated with INZ. The work of those who have preceded people like myself has been remarkable.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1615 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Don Christie,

    Others are using .tv, .ly and .co

    Hah! I was helping Sam with his 'The Sauce' feature for this week's show and added precisely those examples.

    What odd little accidents that Libya controls one of the more often-seen ccTLDs, the one used by Bit.ly, and that little Tuvalu could do a $50m 12-year deal for the use of its suffix.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Paul Brislen,

    Get Vikram to tell you the weirdness of how they got to play the doco… then we can talk about copyright and where this whole shooting match is going.

    Ah! Just heard the story of how it got resolved. I think we’ll save it for the show, if possible :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18666 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Love hertz, if you're going to San Francisco...
    Watch your devices - from July The North American Electric Reliability Corp is going to experiment with the US national power grid:

    The group that oversees the U.S. power grid is proposing a change that has the potential to disrupt electric clocks in schools, hospitals and other institutions, according to a company presentation obtained by The Associated Press. It may also mess with the timing of traffic lights, security systems, sprinklers and some personal computer software and hardware.

    Normally the power stations condition their power to a frequency of 60 cycles a second, a frequency that many old clocks use to maintain their time. With the new standard, or lack of standard, these clocks will stop keeping time properly.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 4629 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    actually. they slow down and speed up in reaction to grid load, but maintain an average for the benefit of synchronous electric clocks. With such things becoming antique, that gets less neccesary

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4413 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2283 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Also (how did we get here) it is fairly straightforward, technically, to construct an inverter that takes random power (batteries, solar panels, generators, iffy mains) and outputs a mains voltage synchronized to a time reference (quartz or even GPS). I doubt Jaycar would have such a thing ATM, but this change might create a market.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4413 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

    Well, don't leave us hanging...
    The link on your profile still points to historyoftvinnz.com.
    ;-)

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 840 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    I have used . info for my new website, which has a nice neutral ring about it.

    My new website is a .co.nz. Despite having had a domain name for my personal website since 1998, this is the first .nz domain I've had. It absolutely felt like the right thing to do.

    Weirdest domain I've ever owned - niger.st, a page dedicated to Niger Street in Arch Hill.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1851 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    niger.st

    That would have gone down well in the US

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16443 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    It would be fair to say that not all .nz registrants -- let's say rianz.co.nz and apra.co.nz -- appreciate their fees being used to lobby in this direction.

    However, it would be fair to say that many APRA members and RIANZ affiliates do appreciate it.

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 296 posts Report Reply

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