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  • Sacha,

    Another important poll result.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F, in reply to Ben McNicoll,

    And I’m pretty sure I recall Pita Sharples saying something similar, or at least hedging his bets in that direction, recently.

    Yup, on NatRad earlier in the week. He didn't confirm whether or not they'd support sales if consideration to iwi investors wasn't on the table.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1549 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ben McNicoll,

    preferential treatment for Iwi investors

    which Key duly refused, to avoid upsetting the Orewa vote..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S, in reply to Sacha,

    My understanding is that there is a line of thought in the Maori Party that various Iwi would take up the offer of these utilities.
    I'm in 2 minds in regard of this as I view them as long term holders so that a portion of NZ gets the economic benefits from them instead of overseas carpetbaggers.
    However I feel that Government ownership is preferable as the benefits flow to the country as a whole.
    I can see the Maori Party voting for partial sale as long as some ownership quid pro quo was dropped in to make political capital that they can show to their voters

    Since Apr 2010 • 65 posts Report Reply

  • Richard C,

    More than a little glum about all this. Perhaps naively, I thought Joyce's bullying disregard for public transport would have more of an impact on the party vote up here, but seems not.

    And I can't help but feel that asset sales - if they actually go ahead - will be one of those 'that's a f**k up for the ages' type calls we'll only regret more as the years trundle by.

    Hey ho. The Greens have got my party vote again; like a lot of others, I think they've run a good campaign. Metiria Turei, in particular, has really impressed me and the (likely) new MP's look to have plenty of talent - kia kaha Denise!

    All of which means this time round I'll happily vote for Jacinda Ardern in Auckland Central. Wish there were more like her at the right end of Labour's list.

    From what I can tell, Nikki Kaye's been competent, visible and very hard working. Astonishingly - to me at least - she *phoned* my wife back in response to one of our regular rants about the clowns who run Fullers. Didn't change a thing, mind, but still...

    So, I have felt some sympathy for her over the awful, awful policies they keep trying to biff our way. Not much though. Anybody know what the polls look like in Auckland Central?

    Waiheke Island • Since Oct 2007 • 27 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I think Craig got it right when he described The Greens leaders as impersonating competent adults.They seem to have painted a glossy picture. Russell Norman Could get to become the associate minister of tourism alongside John Key, with there new found air of compliance. The Greens might even eradicate rock snot, because they are so remarkable about the environment.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2478 posts Report Reply

  • hamishm, in reply to Sacha,

    I thought that their " Iwi not Kiwi" billboards might have blown it, but evidently not.

    Since Nov 2006 • 345 posts Report Reply

  • Ben McNicoll, in reply to Sacha,

    which Key duly refused

    For now. Before the "actually, this is the only way to do what we need to do, so this why you should vote out MMP" talking point.

    It works both ways for him.

    Grey Lynn • Since May 2007 • 110 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to James Millar,

    …unless it’s for uneconomical white elephant motorway projects that are counterproductive to NZ’s long-term economic development and expose our economy to future oil shocks. Those are fine to spend money on.

    In a few words: socialism for the rich.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4058 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to DeepRed,

    Joyce knows that his highway is a ribbon of oil to carry bigger diesel trucks to carry the petrol from the offshore oil rig to go in the cars that pay the tax on the oil that pays for the police and the soldiers...you get what I mean.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Ian MacKay, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Farrar’s exclusive has been destroyed as an anti-NZF ploy, by Sprout and Graeme Edgler who have pointed out that Winston is eligible under the Electoral Act and nothing to to with the Incorporated Societies Act 1908.
    So of course they must know that NZF is over the threshold and in a piece of poetic justice Winston will be able politely be in a stronger position than had they left him alone this time, and last time for that matter. Some strategic NZF votes coming up.

    Bleheim • Since Nov 2006 • 498 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Darlington, in reply to Samuel Scott,

    He is the ABs at half time in twickenham 99...but Labour aren't France me thinks.

    *Polite applause*

    Nelson • Since Nov 2006 • 881 posts Report Reply

  • Carol Stewart, in reply to Richard C,

    Astonishingly - to me at least - she *phoned* my wife back

    She phoned me too, Richard, in response to an irate email from me about National Standards (which she was defending). I was very taken with her even though I continued to disagree. And I'm not even remotely in her electorate.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2008 • 633 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Gordon Campbell's final column before te election carries on the rugby analogy.

    Thanks to the abysmal standard of the refereeing, John Key – the Richie McCaw of New Zealand politics – was allowed to trap the ball and get away with murder. On (a) asset sales, (b) the Epsom tape and (c) the employment (non) effects of raising the minimum wage, the Key government did not release information – including Treasury advice and research paid for by the taxpayer – highly relevant to the main issues of trust and substance in this campaign, and yet no-one penalised them for doing so.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY,

    I will be spending the entire day knocking on doors and asking people politely if they have voted and whether they would like a lift to the polling booth. Sounds like a lot of fun, doesn’t it?

    I will be voting for Team Red. I like the Greens, and I think a Labour/Greens government would do wonders for the country. But I still see Labour as the main party of the left, and once they’ve sorted some of their shit out I think they will return stronger than before.

    I’m also motivated by the fact that where I live in Te Atatu the National candidate is worse than useless, and the Labour one Phil Twyford is excellent. Twyford’s in danger of losing his list seat if Labour bombs badly and if he doesn’t win the electorate, so there will be a big contingent in Te Atatu fighting hard on the day.

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 787 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY,

    Gee, it has been a while since I posted here. I can attach stuff to my comment now.

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 787 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to ScottY,

    once they’ve sorted some of their shit out

    Wonder if that's more or less likely with a significant Greens vote?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to ScottY,

    (tip with attachments - you need to type some text as well, and the graphic will appear above the text)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    This is my eighth election as a voter.
    For the first time, I'm still undecided at this late stage.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to ScottY,

    I will be voting for Team Red. I like the Greens, and I think a Labour/Greens government would do wonders for the country.

    Labour's attitude to the Greens when brokering past MMP government deals takes a lot of forgetting. I don't.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2552 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Taling to a couple of older Maori Truck drivers last night at about 11.00pm, working late . They commented that they felt the Maori Party had lost it. So for them it was Labour, Mana .They like Hone and didn't mind Minto or Sue. I felt like giving them a hug. Jus' sayin'

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 5919 posts Report Reply

  • Kyhwana, in reply to ScottY,

    Sadly, I think it's illegal to do that. You can't try to get people to vote or even tell them NOT to vote! (For anyone!)

    Hamilton • Since Jul 2011 • 14 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Danyl has a no-punches-pulled wrap-up at Dimpost.

    That National might drop below 50% and Peters might get returned to Parliament is testament to Steven Joyce’s hubris. He thought he was a master of the universe moving chess pieces around on a board – but Peters isn’t a pawn. Loathsome though he may be, he is also the most talented politician of his generation, and tens of thousands of National voters still trust him. Giving him media oxygen was a stupid, pointless move.

    Still, they’ll be government for three more years – partly because there was simply no credible alternative. I think many voters are still optimistic that Key has a plan, or a vision – that his financial genius will kick in and save us all. But there is no vision – or rather, Key’s vision is simply of a country in which he is Prime Minister.

    The gradual erosion of public services and transfer of wealth to the already wealthy will continue, because it’s what Key’s supporters and many of his Ministers want, and the Prime Minister will remain indifferent to these trends unless they directly threaten his popularity in a way his media team cannot manage.
    ...

    Labour:
    Ran a surprisingly strong campaign. But who cares? Even now less than half of the people voting Labour want Goff as their Prime Minister. They’re facing a Massacre of the Innocents – the loss of many of their most gifting and promising new MPs due to public revulsion at the quality of the party leadership.
    ...

    Labour’s policies are more popular than National’s with the public (and with me). But I just don’t have any faith in these people to implement these policies effectively. Or, frankly, at all.
    ...

    Green:
    Ran a low risk, policy-focused campaign, with their usual daft, media-friendly gimmicks (swimming with sharks) so the gallery could dust off their repertoire of puns. They were the most effective opposition party. I’m giving them my vote this election – the first time I’ve ever voted for the Greens.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16272 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    If you ever swim in the sea...it's got to be the Greens, just saying. This is the first year I have spoken out, and I thank Russell and PAS for the chance to do so. Plus I will be voting the same as Craig :-) If I was in central it would have been Jacinda Ardern, she would make a great leader.
    Labour should have my vote but they need to learn to play with others, why rule out Mana? And yes you have made the Greens life hell in the past. And in Tamaki, where are you, the Nats are throwing people out of their homes as we speak.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Conrad Lake, in reply to Ben McNicoll,

    That is how I've always liked to see electorate votes. And in my opinion I don't see why it couldn't be added further whereby PV could be added to the Party Vote as well. The threshold could remain at 5% in terms of the party vote but with PV parties that dip just below 5% as NZ First may well be, could be pushed up as preferences go to NZ First etc. I also think it would benefit very small parties that won't ever make the threshold so that their voters ultimately have a say in how their wasted vote will be influenced.

    CHCH • Since Apr 2009 • 10 posts Report Reply

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