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Hard News: Nobody wanted #EQNZ for Christmas

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  • linger, in reply to linger,

    Hmm, interesting.
    Using an energy scale of (number of M4-equivalent quakes), and smoothing each day's total over the surrounding week, a plot of (log energy release) vs time for Japan is roughly linear, but with clear outliers on 22 June and 11 July, and then a sustained higher-than-expected release from July 23-August 4 -- from which I'd conclude that the initial quake may have triggered other events that should not be counted as "aftershocks" per se.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 808 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

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    Sydenham loses its last remaining character building - the former Post Office.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3298 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

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    But I absolutely love this. I’d seen the blurb but had no idea how big it actually was! Colombo St in Sydenham just past the overbridge. Photo taken from the bus! Hence the strange reflections.

    ETA: I don’t know who’s planted sunflowers in the site of the demolished former factory in Woolston, but whoever you are, you are awesome.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3298 posts Report Reply

  • Tamsin6, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    Just a thought; is anyone else a little unsettled by the way Christmas consumption has now extended beyond December 24, into the post-Christmas week. Boxing Day might be better named Buying Day. All this consumption is portrayed by the media as A Good Thing but there is no more a depressing sight than customers rummaging through half-price Christmas baubles on December 26.
    Is it a commentary on significant shifts in NZ society?

    I am unsettled by the long run-up to Christmas, much less so by the sales - the run-up to Christmas feels like an attempt to drum up hysterical levels of spend, spend, spend - the aftermath in the sales seems more of the traditional post-Christmas bargain hunting. Here in London for sure, some people are depending on post-Christmas bargains to be able to provide any treats. Some people are using sale prices in chain supermarkets to put clothes on their backs - it isn't always about greed, sometimes it's about desperation.

    London • Since Dec 2007 • 123 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    Boxing Day might be better named Buying Day. . . .
    Is it a commentary on significant shifts in NZ society?

    Boxing Day remains a restricted trading day in NSW. They didn't flog off their union protection re. holidays and penal rates in the interests of 'deregulation'. Don't know about other Australian States. The last time I tried to buy milk in Sydney on Boxing Day it was a bit of a job to find somewhere open.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3291 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to tussock,

    I have 2 friends who are geologists: their speciality is palaeo-tsunamis, but they have huge field experience of studying earthquakes.

    It is *their* opinion that a rupture of the Alpine fault - to the degree it has moved in the past- is likely to be 9+.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • tussock, in reply to Islander,

    They should publish something to that effect, though I'd imagine it's outside their niche. They could update wikipedia, but it would suggest they find something published with numbers like that too, eh.

    Continental transform faults don't make 9s. Can't make 9s, as far as I can find. Might create an extremely powerful tsunami if they slip the side of a mountain into the sea, or Lake Dunstan, as the case may be.

    @linger, cool. Redefining "aftershock" could be interesting work.

    Since Nov 2006 • 337 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to tussock,

    Aint outside their 'niche' and they have published a rather large amount on everything, including that...there WAS a major tsunami event on the West Coast in the late 18th century( slump tsunami* generated by a Fjordland earthquake),which they have documented and published, & they estimated, from previous events, that the next movement of the Alpine fault (waaaay overdue) will top that = 9+

    *There are massive trenches off the coast of Okarito-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Quite a good information page on the Dec 23rd quakes on Geonet. And the peak-ground-acceleration charts are fascinating. With the 3.18pm quake, although the epicentre was just off Brighton, the highest PGA was in Heathcote!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3298 posts Report Reply

  • Pete Sime,

    Well, it's that time for reviews of the year. Charlie Brooker is always good

    Dunedin • Since Apr 2008 • 141 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Pete Sime,

    Charlie Brooker is always good

    Chch not mentioned but creeps into the “breaking news” ticker in Gadaffi clips.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3298 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    TO: all posters (and lurkers) on PAS-

    may I wish you all the best of health in every respect, happiness & unexpected joys, and creativity in usual&new ways - arohanui ki a koutou katoa n/n/Islander
    who is sitting in front of candles for the dead and a most living fire for us all, here, in the south- & everywhere we are- n/n/Keri

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Islander,

    May 2012 be a box of goodies for you Islander with a sprinkling of good health and fine Whiskey to warm your heart. xxx

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 5697 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Islander,

    Islander, this place is richer for your presence and your stories. I hope you know how much you’re appreciated. And I hope this bright new year has more ease and comfort for you.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3298 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Lilith __,

    +++!
    I'd meant to thank Islander for this jewel - just one of so many:

    They are indeed beautiful - striking- birds, the paradise shelducks.

    Putakitakiatama (female) & putakitakiatoa (male)* are wonderful - they mate for life, and do not seem to readily remate when a partner dies. And, if you've been in a jetboat going on a West Coast stream, you'll realise why NZ Post chose a female pari (quite a while ago) for it's fastpost icon - they can easily outfly it!

    While my ancestors here ate pretty well everything with wings on it, they sensibly only ate pari which were not fully fledged (and they checked all the harvest to make sure they also culled damaged birds.)

    *putakitakiatama = like a child blowing a war trumpet
    *putakitakiatoa =like a warrior blowing a war trumpet
    (I use Kai Tahu dialect - elsewhere it'll be putangtangia-etc or some other variant of it.)

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3291 posts Report Reply

  • Raymond A Francis,

    I have always believed the story about Paradise ducks mating for life but when one of a pair on our farm was killed (an accident that was partly my fault) a bunch of the opposite sex turned up quite quickly and a new mate picked.
    Fortunatly this one was fertile unlike the dead one
    I had thought rats had been stopping the breeding but that was also proved wrong

    45' South • Since Nov 2006 • 521 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Finally got around to seeing Gerard Smyth's excellent documentary about the earthquakes 'When a city falls', and if you haven't already seen it do go, particularly if you are not from Christchurch. Such important documentation of the physical and human scale of it all in a non-judgmental sort of way, and also some positive messages such as from a woman from a formerly-devasted US city who said rebuilding a city for children makes it right for everyone. If you are in Wellington you need to book as it is only on in small theatres at the Lighthouse in Petone and the Penthouse in Brooklyn and showings are booking out early as people finally get around to going to see it in their post-Christmas downtime.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 1901 posts Report Reply

  • Robert Urquhart,

    Nobody wanted #EQNZ for the New Year either. How is everybody this morning?

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2009 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Words fail.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3112 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 15715 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sacha,

    Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority chief executive Roger Sutton said that despite the loss of power there did not seem to be any significant further damage.

    Everyone just wanted a good night's sleep, he said.

    Christchurch Mayor Bob Parker said he had not received reports of any significant liquefaction from the shakes overnight . . . Residents needed to remind themselves they should expect more aftershocks, following the 5.5 magnitude shake.

    "So just prepare yourself for one of those shaky Canterbury days."

    That seems to be how it goes when the shakes hit during the silly season.
    Thenk goodness for very own homespun philosopher-kings.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3291 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Keep on keeping on, Joe.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3112 posts Report Reply

  • Isabel Hitchings,

    The one at 5.45 was big enough to have me on my feet and checking on the kids. The six year old wound up in our bed but we all did get a couple more hours sleep. I'm counting that as a major victory though I will be moving slowly and drinking all the coffee this morning.

    This new round bugs me because they feel different and my inner seismograph isn't attuned to them yet. I won't complain if they die off before I can accurately guess that magnitude though.

    Christchurch • Since Jul 2007 • 690 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,

    Take care, lovely one.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3112 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,

    This new round bugs me because they feel different . . .

    The direction is different. For example, things that might have fallen sideways along a shelf in previous shakes now fall forward onto the floor.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 3291 posts Report Reply

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