Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: #JohnDotBanks and all

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  • Sacha, in reply to Andrew Geddis,

    I'll have my silk magic some up

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    It'll all come out in the wash.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6206 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    That is the shit I've been wanting to hear for quite some time.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8523 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    and a very slow wash Banks is hoping it will be

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to David MacGregor,

    The whole affair will probably bolster John Key’s popularity.
    For some reason it seems news is to the New Zealand electorate as on-pack warnings are to cigarette smokers.

    If that really is the case, then could it be a symptom of 'last place aversion syndrome', as discussed in this Kiwipolitico thread?

    Pattrick Smellie theorises in BusinessDay that Johnny Boy's 'teflon coating' is to do with American-style red-blue state polarisation landing in NZ:

    Yet, maddeningly for the parties of the Left, none of this is showing up in the opinion polls. This is variously explained away as evidence that their fellow citizens are brainwashed fools, that the Government has great propaganda, or that the polls will "catch up".

    None of these theories bear great scrutiny. New Zealanders are sceptical, clever people with almost too many conflicting ideas about how the country could be made better, the Government shoots itself in the foot almost daily, and although the polls may catch up, they may not. Who knows?

    So what's going on? One theory that might explain the continuing popularity of what looks like an unpopular Government is that New Zealand politics is in the process of becoming more polarised. When that happens, the people who do get angrier may not be a larger group than before. Rather, they may simply be a louder, angrier group.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4305 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to DeepRed,

    Pattrick Smellie theorises in BusinessDay that Johnny Boy's 'teflon coating' is to do with American-style red-blue state polarisation landing in NZ:

    Could be, but I am quite suspicious of suggestions that rules are changing just because a herd moves in one direction for longer than expected. Herds can turn fast sometimes. Perhaps there's no magic phenomenon at work with John Key, he's just a bubble that gets big before it pops. Will Banks be the prick to pop him?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 8523 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to DeepRed,

    New Zealanders are sceptical, clever people

    ..who know a gutless opposition is not worth voting for or listening to. Simpler theory.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    New Zealanders are sceptical, clever people

    ..who know a gutless opposition is not worth voting for or listening to. Simpler theory.

    Also a more tedious one.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18888 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    And this morning's story:

    Kim Dotcom says he will produce financial records to back up his allegation that he gave $50,000 to Act leader John Banks' 2010 mayoral campaign after Mr Banks yesterday said the Herald's report of those claims was "mostly BS".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18888 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Francis, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Interestingly, the same story suggests that Dotcom asked for Banks' assistance following his arrest and Banks was unhelpful. It seems that sometimes money doesn't talk.

    Wairarapa • Since Apr 2012 • 13 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Whale Oil thinks Banks has nothing to worry about. I mention this only because the comments are so utterly deranged.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18888 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Good roundup of what people are saying and the history of cabbage boats from Toby Manhire.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18888 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Also in the DomPost this morning, Bronwyn Pullar recorded the meeting with the ACC and their report doesn't match their words.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2106 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    The Prime Minister on Breakfast this morning:

    But Key said he asked Banks if he had acted within the law and received an assurance that he had.

    "He either complied with the law or he didn't. He said he did - I have absolutely no reason to doubt him," Key told TV ONE's Breakfast this morning.

    "In all the experiences I have had with him as a minister he has never misled me."

    However, Key said he did not ask Banks if he asked Dotcom to split the $50,000 in two. "That's not my job to do a forensic investigation.

    "I accept him at his word [and] if people don't believe that, they're free to test that with the police.

    "The same Labour Party that criticised me [over the Teapot saga] I'm sure will be trudging off to see the boys in blue this morning."

    Ahem.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18888 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    the history of cabbage boats from Toby Manhire.

    I knew he'd find that angle irresistable.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Whale Oil thinks Banks has nothing to worry about

    Both of them have such outstanding legal minds, after all.

    But Key said he asked Banks if he had acted within the law and received an assurance that he had.

    Like I say, outstanding.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Whale Oil thinks Banks has nothing to worry about. I mention this only because the comments are so utterly deranged.

    Urrrh. I never thought I'd visit a website that made Kiwibog look sane.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2106 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Whale Oil

    We appreciate your sacrifice, Russell. Deity knows I wouldn't go in there!

    The pit from whence crawl… • Since Mar 2007 • 3908 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to nzlemming,

    There's a reason the Blubbery Cetacean's lair is considered unholy ground by much of the sane portion of society.

    The pit from whence crawl… • Since Mar 2007 • 3908 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to nzlemming,

    try Not PC or No Minister #nutbars

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16667 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Cartoon.
    Haha.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens, in reply to 3410,

    Question: Why would someone ask for 2 x $25k rather than 1 x $50k?

    Putting on my "think like John Banks hat" I see that Banks got five "anonymous" donations of 25k, of which only two were from Kim Dotcom. As a paid up member of the sharp practice, smart-alec Auckland business elite, Banks probably thinks he is safe in claiming that he doesn't know which PARTICULAR 25k donation came from who.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1806 posts Report Reply

  • DeepRed, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Whale Oil thinks Banks has nothing to worry about. I mention this only because the comments are so utterly deranged.

    No True Scotsman, methinks? And it’s not the first time, either. Denial is the last refuge of the cornered.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 4305 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    that he doesn’t know which PARTICULAR 25k donation came from who.

    That is probably what the Police can let him off with. Reasonable doubt.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6206 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    That is probably what the Police can let him off with. Reasonable doubt

    Until he rings the guy up to thank him for his donation.
    Question to Banks; did you ring Dotcom and thank him for his donation?

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

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