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Hard News: Music: The Noisy Library turns five

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  • Doug Hood,

    You can never have too much guitar, especially Bathgate's

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 41 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Congratulations to AudioCulture. I remember some of those early discussions. Coincidentally, I have just received a request to re-work my AC piece on the Pretty Things for a book collection..

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2521 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew G,

    was the Marlon gig seated downstairs on Saturday? I went on Friday and it was standing only

    Napier • Since Mar 2007 • 53 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Andrew G,

    was the Marlon gig seated downstairs on Saturday? I went on Friday and it was standing only

    Oh, I didn’t realise that.

    Yes, it was all seated – which might explain the relative quiet for Julia.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22537 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Doug Hood,

    You can never have too much guitar, especially Bathgate’s

    Truth.

    So is that your recording from the desk, Doug? I'm never quite sure how, but your desk tapes over the years seem to have ended up in a lot of willing hands :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22537 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    Coincidentally, I have just received a request to re-work my AC piece on the Pretty Things for a book collection..

    Oh, that's great to hear!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22537 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew G, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Oh, I didn’t realise that.

    Yes, it was all seated – which might explain the relative quiet for Julia

    Yeah, there were a few talkers on Friday. Seating an audience does seem to have a quieting effect.

    Napier • Since Mar 2007 • 53 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    Audioculture's an excellent website, good call on the photos, images, etc, all sorts of incredible pics I thought I'd never see.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 755 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood, in reply to Russell Brown,

    So is that your recording from the desk, Doug? I’m never quite sure how, but your desk tapes over the years seem to have ended up in a lot of willing hands :-)

    Sounds like it Russ. Unfortunately all my desk tapes from the last tour were stolen, when the flat I was staying at in Ponsonby Rd , with the Droids, was invaded by a local gang , whom I won’t name, Just say they hated the local punks, going back to the Zwines days. John Baker wound up with the one from the Gluepot show somehow.

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 41 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood,

    P.S.

    Love Audioculture, great legacy for us old diehard NZ music types & Simon G

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 41 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Doug Hood,

    Sounds like it Russ. Unfortunately all my desk tapes from the last tour were stolen, when the flat I was staying at in Ponsonby Rd , with the Droids, was invaded by a local gang , whom I won’t name, Just say they hated the local punks, going back to the Zwines days. John Baker wound up with the one from the Gluepot show somehow.

    Damn, that’s a shame. But the Androidss really did attract that kind of attention …

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22537 posts Report Reply

  • Doug Hood, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Yep but they sure were a lot of fun to be around.

    Kingsland • Since Oct 2009 • 41 posts Report Reply

  • TracyMac,

    Audioculture is a real treasure, and genuinely one of the best sites of the past decade. The Aussies certainly have nothing like it. I'm trying to rack my brain for somewhere else that does.

    While the site is obviously about the stories and pics, I do think the NZ-on-Air and other publicly funded music videos are invaluable. Not too much quibbling with record labels, if they were so motivated.

    The only thing I wish for on the site (other than MOAR of the excellent stuff in general), is more from younger contributors. I've been away from NZ for 20 years, more or less, and yet I recognise the vast majority of performer names on the site. Sure, I quaintly stock up on CDs when I'm home, listen to the student stations (why does George play so little local music?), and check out the recommendations here, but still. Yay for pretty much breaking Lorde here... but there's no article on her on Audioculture.

    So, non-GenXers/boomers, please contribute! My own musical experience peak was around the turn of the millennium - all the great electronica, including pre-Skrillex dubstep. But now I like a fair amount of trap (sue me), bands like the Upbeats (ahem) are still getting around, so there must be more newer acts back home worthy of an article.

    (I know Audioculture isn't a news site, but I thought Stellar* were pretty cool when I finally encountered them just a few years back, as one example.)

    I'm sure it's easier to reminisce about things when perhaps memories aren't so raw, so I get why there's not many super-current acts. Conversely, while they probably aren't so much into moody shots under motorway bridges (on Ilford or Tri-X film where money was barely scraped together for development/prints even when someone had darkroom access at art school), acts today are all over different kinds of media. Surely I am not the only one who wants screenshots or even links to cringeworthy or cool MySpaces or Tumblrs or Bandcamps?

    Canberra, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 696 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to TracyMac,

    but there's no article on her on Audioculture.

    Hi Tracy - watch this space :-) AudioCulture has a page on the North Shore scene that in part included Ella, but for a long while, it was almost too soon for a site dedicated to NZ's musical past to have much more simply because it's tough to tell a story that is still evolving. But clearly, it's a key story that needs to be told and soon will be in some detail, and in a way that NZers can identify with we hope. Our attachment to the Lorde story is utterly unique.

    PS - thank you!

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3278 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    God Save the Queen(’s Birthday Honours List)
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/104407240/antiestablishment-flying-nun-founder-just-wanted-to-get-music-on-the-record

    From an Aranui childhood listening to Beatles records and a part-time teenage job in a Colombo St record store, Christchurch’s Roger Shepherd went on to pioneer New Zealand’s most famous independent record label.
    Shepherd founded Flying Nun Records in 1981 to record the post-punk Christchurch bands he heard at local pubs, and is widely recognised for fostering, recording and promoting New Zealand, especially South Island, music.
    He has been made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for services to the music industry.

    <an aside:> At the moment this story asserts that Flying Nun is now based in Australia – hopefully they will correct that soon.
    <update> Sorted, and removed!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7704 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I forgot to mention Sir John Rowles and those Topp Dames amongst others honoured…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/arts/104403861/queens-birthday-honours-topp-twins-flying-nunn-founder-and-dj-sirvere-honoured

    see:
    https://www.audioculture.co.nz/people/john-rowles
    and
    https://www.audioculture.co.nz/people/the-topp-twins
    and
    https://www.audioculture.co.nz/people/dj-sir-vere
    and
    https://www.audioculture.co.nz/scenes/roger-shepherd-interview-1997

    PS – I’m very impressed at how fast these were updated!!
    (but noticed a lack of Opera coverage in the Noisy Library)

    PPS – I note a new spelling for Flying Nunn in that Stuff URL…
    …must be echoing the Topps

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7704 posts Report Reply

  • TracyMac, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    Thank YOU, Simon. For the whole enterprise.

    I totally get it re timing "retrospective" articles on active acts/scenes, but I'm really glad you're covering that one off imminently!

    Canberra, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 696 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    <an aside:> At the moment this story asserts that Flying Nun is now based in Australia – hopefully they will correct that soon.
    <update> Sorted, and removed!

    Nice work!

    PS – I’m very impressed at how fast these were updated!!

    Me too.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22537 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to TracyMac,

    listen to the student stations (why does George play so little local music?)

    never student radio and now part of Mediaworks.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19518 posts Report Reply

  • Steven Shaw, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Ha! Thanks for noticing the updates!

    Auckland • Since Apr 2008 • 8 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    1. Wellington nightclubs in the 1980s

    There was a glimpse of such nightlife in the early 1980s intro to Radio With Pictures (the one with the Nina Hagen theme). Nga Taonga Sound & Vision recently showed archives of the show as part of NZ Music Month, and Karyn Hay was back down in Welly last week to host a panel about her old stomping ground.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5385 posts Report Reply

  • Mike Hollywood, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Karyn Hay's Nga Taonga Sound & Vision talk last week was superb, and a timely reminder of how much things have moved on. And a reminder of just how important that show was in pre-MTV days in terms of bringing the rest of the world into our lounges. She really was a pioneer, and is the first presenter - beyond the realm of comedy - I can recall who dared to speak in an authentic kiwi accent. Which pulled us in even closer imo. The RWP episode they played was from 1985, and it featured priceless footage of the 1984 Women's Performance Festival which looked like it was at Auckland's Performance Café. ps .. happy birthday AudioCulture, and cheers for the mention Russell. My piece is not the best writing on there by any stretch - it jumps all over the place and could have been better if I'd bothered to interview any of the key people involved (although Ray Johns has passed, and Tony Pene lives in the US these days) - but I was happy to learn that something worthwhile came of all those long nights emptying my wallet and um, putting my body on the line.

    Since May 2009 • 51 posts Report Reply

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