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I think nz internet will stay the same old same old it has for the last 2 years. ie a joke well behind the mark and holding people who actually want to use the internet by the throat.
We've got TVNZ offering tv on demand, and moves towards watching movies via download etc yet no provider has offered a realistic package that doesn't cost you big time for the data amounts it would take to actually use these quite reasonable features of the modern day internet.
Xtra and woosh have offered all you can eat plans then quickly removed them and capped users still on those plans. All you can eat so long as you don't want to eat much, and then they cap you down to levels that won't even support voice over internet, which makes sense cos why would a telephone company willingly give up its grip over international phone calls.
Internet on mobile phone. what a joke. The system seems to be set up to trap people into accidentally using the system for anything other than a three word email and then charging like a wounded bull for the mistake, but then why should we expect the mobile phone providers to do anything less then hold the country to ransom in 2 player monopoly that even they proudly brag about as being the exact way they would like it in an ideal profit maximising world.
What I would like to see is Internet not being trapped to the landline. hey some of us don't need a land line any more, but if you do a google search on woosh and read some of the user comments, pretty ugly with some truly scary stories of trapped customers locked into a 12 -18 month plan of internet that for some simply doesn't work even though it did when they installed it.
The whole 12 - 18 month minimum sign up period with hefty disconnection fee and makes it impossible for people to try the best providers for them and if you do have a bad experience then you're going to have another bad and costly experience to change to another provider that might be just as bad and as costly to escape once you've found out.
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No one's going to bite, are they? Please god no...
ha! they did and intelligently too. just cos I don't personally like dance music doesn't mean I can't discuss and understand its appeal to others.
I cast my mind back to being 16 and very VERY focused on what I liked and didn't like. Fucking loathed some stuff, which I've later come to still not like but understand why other people might like it.
Used to hate all classical music cos its what the folks liked, but later discovered that they were listening to the pap, and there was some powerful stuff tucked away from th surface (ok I realise that sounds silly now but as a teen who was I to know) I like that I was so opinionated though, and that others like Mr Grigg had a similar feeling toward other genres (dire straits, sorry, I won't mention them again)
I was very ain't rock at the time too, or I guess it was our perceived view of rock, long haired pretentious lead soloing wankers. Guess thats what punk as all about, but now, well I still don't like leadbreaks but there's the odd good song to be found from the 70's if you look, I guess........
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thanks, i'll give that a go
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I think there's a little something to my point without being rude.
The repetitive and simplified nature of much dance music means you don't have to think too much about the deep and meaningful lyrics or complex chord structures, which probably makes it very good for dancing too, or driving to, a soundtrack while doing something else. -
or maybe the lack of substance is the point, no thinking required?
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I never got past the lack of substance in dance music.
loved the sonics but that wore off after few mins -
stephen you wouldn't have a contact for adult mayflies drummer graeme would you. also of the stones.
I have a bogadagas live tape somewhere. recorded at a gig in that big mansion venue in rotorua with the bats. I recall them being very good but its been a long time since I've listen or heard. -
Beat Rhythm Fashion sounded like they'd recently been expelled from Eton,
for those interest BRF have a CD of their works just released available here or here
and peter at dub dot dash discusses them here
Turn of the Century is one of the greatest singles ever produced in this country. Released back in 1981 by a Wellington three piece called Beat Rhythm Fashion, their output amounted to a trilogy of singles, before disappearing across the ditch. Over 20 years down the track, they hold their own easily alongside the likes of The Cure, Joy Division and Young Marble Giants, all reference points for their sound.
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the live experience for me is enjoyable for things that aren't on the cd.
one of those is volume, I'd have to admit to liking a gig that envelopes you in sound,
one of my best gig going experiences was snapper at Uni of canterbury mixed by paul kean. that room is normally shit, hard surfaces making for a hard sound but paul pulled a great balance at this gig. standout song was cause of you. sonicly pleasing to say the least.Other good things bout gigs are different versions of songs, and unreleased tracks, the rest is socialising.
I like a band who are prepared to wing it, make it up, take a risk.sonics is a big thing for me though, a well sculpted sound at a volume that you can feel but doesn't hurt, its a beautiful thing.
as kyle pointed out though, its somewhat rare to get that perfect balance, which is why I take earplugs to every gig. its not worth going deaf for the live experience and its not reasonable to stay at home and miss the action just cos the band is too cheap to hire someone with some skill to make sure they sound just right.
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Paying 10, 30, 90 dollars to have my hearing damaged for a couple of hours, when I could buy the CD for $25
its a valid point and one which keeps a number of people away from gigs.
The problem with keeping the volume down while attempting a balanced mix is you are stuck with being as loud as the loudest instument off the stage. this is commonly the cymbals or snare drum.
in a small venue like the dux delux in chch you are tanding pretty close to a full live drummer, and in the case of rock music he's hitting those drums pretty hard. of course its going to be loud in the room and its very little to do with the sound engineer that it is that loud, its purely that a drummer rocking out would infact be that loud in that sized room. The sound engineer should be bringing the other instruments and vocals up to meet that balance, which was already loud.you don't have that problem with Karen obviously cos she's one person with a guitar. The issue in that sort of space is the noise of the venue. people talking over the band etc, bar tills ringing, it can be hard to do a low volume mix in those conditions cos the singer gets drowned out.
the solution to a lot of the volume issues is better sized venues, concert atmospheres where people shut up and pay attention to the music, and the off bit off acoustic treatment wouldn't go a miss to reduce the sound slamming around the room. That's probably not going to happen though cos live venues aren't raking the cash in enough to justify the expense.
Guess its either stick to your folk music or plug them holes.