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did anyone attend the labour party workshop on copyright recently?
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And, if I were Chris Hocquard, I might sue you for mistaking me for, well, me
that's exactly the sort of thing I'd expect hocquard to say. you're scaring me now,
both prone to taking things out of context,
I've not seen that from mr stowell but if it helps you feel better bout you own completely "in context" arguments I say you go right ahead and think that.
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and no-one's ever seen you together,
actually that's not true, we once spent 6 months doing a crappy course together where we hatched our devilishly evil scheme,......
......but I've already said too much. (not 74 pages but a good swag of it)
you should pull up the casino thread, that's really your baby with all the author stuff on it. it was hitting 30 last I saw it.
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Y'know, there was a time, Rob, when I thought you posted as robbery as well.
oh right, cos no one else on this planet could take a position opposite yours except me. there can be only one etc.
Actually I've backed you a couple of times recently. (shivers :))I thought you were chris hocquard for a while there mark, all the legal speak stuff.
I'm sure Russell would be alerted to the fact that my ip address was being used by two identities.
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DoubleHappys, Chills and some others.
That sounds like a loony tours gig.
probably doug hood. he's the guy who did the recording on the boodle clean ep. very talented sound engineer especially at a time when it was all big kick drums and nothing else.best sound I ever heard excluding gigs i've mix were an out door muttonbirds gig at the arts centre in chch done by paul crowther, seriously beautiful crystal clear audio and it was out doors which is always difficult, and snapper at the university of canterbury mixed by paul kean of toylove/bats, a horrible venue but this night it just worked supremely.
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but it could be the Gulf Stream.
I was going to say, you speak of this plug hole like it's a bad thing.
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but at least I make a stab at understanding them...
i do to, profit, its simple.
they make as much money as someone allows them to.in any direction
I'm pretty consistent on this point though. and for a reason. demonizing the record industry fuels the resentment that you yourself said has lead to the backlash against it by consumers. it is used as an excuse for fucking over music in general, not specifically targeted at the 4 majors for specific crimes against specific artists.
refuse to ever concede a point even when you are wrong
That's not true, I've conceded a few.
you don't own this thread,
No I most certainly do not.
You know I love your work, and even though I disagree with some of your world views (although I do understand what you're saying) that doesn't affect how I view what you have achieved.
can I use propeller as a label name? no? ok, just checking.
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Really, this is going nowhere again.
Well its not going in the direction you favour but we can agree to disagree.
what I want to know is what we're going to do about our mutual problem of must have the last word.
In my defense I've not yet said I'm opting out of the discussion to come back into it again and again, but I've still got the same issues.Wanna go halves on a shrink, maybe we can reclaim valuable spare time we spend correcting people who are wrong on the internet.
I'm not living in fear of major labels, no one else has to either.
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No, it's called knowing what I'm talking about.
Scrooge mc duck isn't a real person. money bins of cash that you can dive into don't exist, (and you'd break your neck doing so) it's exaggeration for effect. It colours the whole music industry in a sheen of gold that isn't accurate for 99.99% of the industry.
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that's ridiculous
That's called evidence to support your claim.
I'm just trying to get a handle on how big this epidemic is in my own back yard so if its as massive and all consuming as you infer it is we should be able to see that in a list of disgruntled and soon to be law suit winning artists.
Or maybe its not quite as dramatic in the home land and most people avoided the situation by going indie and being wise to the whole contract evil thing.
I don't know, its your story, Im just looking for some back up facts to see how it happened and is happening locally.
as for my list of 4 major artist, as I said, most music in nz avoids majors. The ones that are on em don't seem to be in a hurry to escape.That people accept the deal they are offered, try to negotiate a little better one for a bigger purpose but still know they are being fucked is a fairly simple concept to grasp but it seems to confuse you.
to me that's called business, and it happens this way in most industries, except other industries don't plead the poor suffering artist line, they accept the deal as what it is. take it or leave it.
when you're selling your house and someone offers you less than you want for it and there are no other buyers that's not being fucked over, that's market value. (I'm starting to sound like mark now damn it). It's not more shocking just because its rock stars involved. Its disappointing yes, but there have always been choices. I've no idea why you went into a situation knowing that you were damaging the value of your product, knowing full well there are other ways to do the whole selling cds thing. perhaps it was in fact the best course of action, if it wasn't then that does confuse me cos you're not a stupid man. you're obviously well aware of the pitfalls.