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Campbell Smith, chief executive of RIANZ, says: “The government acknowledges that New Zealand’s creative industries are suffering because of the impact of online piracy and it recognises that ISPs should play a key role in helping to address the problem.
“The delay required to implement the government’s decision to amend the law is obviously disappointing but that’s a price worth paying if the result is clear legislation that effectively addresses the problem.
“The recording industry worked hard with its partners in the technology sector to supplement the current version of Section 92a with a fair and transparent code for its implementation. The government remains committed to tackling unlawful file-sharing and has decided that it should mandate such a process through legislation. This means we can have a comprehensive approach that covers all players in the telecoms market.”
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a return to the days of rolling in the money bins, Scrooge McDuck style.
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Far be it from you to exaggerate for effect. -
It's sad to see potential wasted.
you could always get off your arse and do better.
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Sorry Rob, that's silly, you know it.
in excusable riddled with typos more to the point.
to test your theory we could apply it to the real world.
locallyout of the people I know with major label contracts can you point out the ones that are getting fucked over by their deals and who will be taking their contract to court to contest it.
Shayne Carter (sony?)
Bic Runga (sony)
Boh Runga
Exponents.many of them have managers who are head of rianz,
Was going to say opshop but they're on their own label.
Hayley westenra's deal is crap, that is true, but to be fair she's got quite a lot in the bargain that isn't cash.
I'm hard pushed to think of local major sign. everyone else is wise to it.
actually maybe its easier if you just list the ones you know to be upset with the contracts they signed apart from yourself
And I have been fucked over, but willingly as I knew what was going down
As sorry as I am to hear that and as much as I share your anger at the big boys using their position to maximise their benefits the two parts of that sentence can't go together.
You can't be knowingly fucked over. That's called accepting their terms of the bargain.
Its like getting pissed off that Real Groovy give you fuck all for your second hand discs and then sell them at huge mark ups. You know they do it, its part of the deal, if you don't like it explore the alternatives. Take your discs to trade me, or in your case Self distribute, find an indie, go to another label. No one offering you the terms you want? then maybe they're unrealistic.I do take your point, but I take it with a grain of non mythological salt.
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Fortunately for people like Gilbert O'Sullivan, the aforementioned Mr. Knoffler, and Elton John, plus a whole bunch of others, the courts don't agree with you.
as I said, aside from the fair dealing aspects of it, which do apply to other industries and activities, being unaware that majors try this shit is hardly breaking news. No you don't have to sing with them, maybe the offer something others can't. maybe stardom is the goal.
The only reason we care so much about people getting fucked over in music and film is cos pretty stars are involved in it. people get fucked over all the time in all kinds of business, we don't turn it into mythology,
all I'm saying is if you and I can avoid being fucked over then its not too much to expect others to have a clue.and good to know gilbert o'sullivan is ok, I lie awake at nights worrying about him, so good to know he's ok, and elton and the knoffler. I'll look forward to seeing their stories on fair go.
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Good, god, next you'll be saying that no one is guaranteed a living...
only if you can find me a world recognised and respected artist to say it to, but you've set the bar pretty high on that one. Its hardly worth bothering, I'm not going to do it better than you.
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because you've offered an enticement to the stuff I've been dreaming about in my bedroom for years.
all the dreaming in their bedroom stars I've met are well up on their rock history. that's what they do in their bedroom for years, read books and mags and articles about exactly this. our media is riddled with this stuff, every second rockstar movie has it in it, every bioography every industry article. its almost become the story that sells, I'm sure some marketing execs include it in their spin to make their stars credible. you ain't hard a hard life till you've been fucked over by your label.
Its the same in any industry, buyer beware.
that doesn't excuse unfair dealings but it certainly deflates the poor stupid artist argument. if they want to be stars fine, if they want to get rich, get a business head on your shoulders. ignorance isn't an excuse. -
NZ Radio threads again
:) bugger. you got me there.
I love that dire straits gag reflex about you though. why does someones like or dislike of music have to be rational (not saying hating headband wearing sweaty guitarists is irrational at all) -
Or perhaps they just wanted to be pop stars.
No I'm saying go indie. if indie offer everything a major offers with a non satan tinged contract then go indie and stop complaining about getting into bed with the devil you should know very well by now.
or maybe the benefits aren't purely financial so it's misleading to look at it in purely financial terms.
if they sign on because they want to be pop stars maybe they get exactly what they bargained for, no more, no less.