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I'd be interested in your opinion if you ever want to check it out from the band/label guy side of the fence.
ok ok, I'll look into it,
I wanted to have a browse but you have to give your credit card to look through the site. I know their not a suspicious site but that by default spooks me. -
One of Rob's bands, Kimo
they better not be, I haven't released that to anyone yet.
hopefully that's the american kimo otherwise I'm being pirated.Rob, how come?
all of the stuff is on amplifier.
to be honest in the first 3 years of that I was hardly blown away by the sales. something like $40 for a years downloads. didn't seem worth the effort.
like Islander I'm not in a rush to get into that part of the game and I think it should be done right.
Just whacking it up on itunes is near pointless in my opinion.
I'm all for a good aggrigator (that' such an ugly word to say) who does promotion and gets it seen in the right places.if you've done your own record any time in the last 10 years you'll know the game has changed from 20 years ago where purely by the fact you paid for a pressing you had lifted yourself out from the crowd.
now having a completed disc is the smallest part of the game. getting it in a shop is an achievement but that in itself achieves nothing. it can easily sit there un noticed for 6 months and then come back unsold.
to me itunes is the corner dairy selling newspapers (and they should only get 20 cents a paper). they make a financial transaction but don't add much more to the meal other than take someones money and let them download a track and its all automated anyway, its not like there's someone ringing up the cash register. its not worth 1/3 of the pie.
the Aggrigator is the one who potentially does the big work in the distro chain.
I haven't found one I like yet.
I recently went with border music for physical distro though and love em to bits although doing that has made each project less viable financially for the cut that gets lost. you reach more people but you take less of the pie and you actually end up slightly behind where you were going to be without it. well hopefully not but that's what it looks like at the moment. -
you got em for $8 from itunes? their albums are listed for $18 up here at the moment. was it a special deal or did you go direct via the artist?
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Rob, have you ever looked at eMusic for distributing your stuff
Thanks peter. I'm cool for that side of things, I wasn't so much looking for a deal as trying to highlight areas of non perfection and downright same old same old in the distro world.
I think the mark up that distro takes in both the old and the new modles contribute massively to the agreed high cost of music.
in digital distribution I can see no real reason for that cost to be so high except to make big profits.The beatles catalogue being offered in its own shop would give them the opportunity to half the cost to consumers, but they'd probably choose to double their profits instead.
I personally like the idea of diversity of shops, but maybe thats just me.
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I'm not denying the pluses pointed out by simon just saying there are negatives to the positives, and some taking a step sideways rather than forward issues.
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my point was its a little more complex than that. itunes isn't the solution to all problems, and in some case its the problem to some solutions.
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as a label and copyright owner,
what stuff are you working on at the moment simon?
how have things changed for you working in the label game today to what it was like 20 years ago?
are you seeing the financial results at the end of the line in similar or better amounts compared to similar acts you maight have been involved with in past years, ie is it getting better or worse on the returns front? -
And show me a retailer that will, with one hit, get you into millions of homes
here's one
piped into the same millions of homes but not much good unless people actually go there. -
hopping shopping,
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So what, show me a business where a distributor / agent doesn't take a cut.
I didn't make a point that a business doesn't take a cut I made the point that it was the same cut, ie 50% for a greatly reduced role.
You got shares in itunes or something?
you could just say, "yeah they could drop their take back and it would help get the price of music down" but you seem to want me to love the itunes. They're skimming the profit off this big time.get you into millions of homes
you left off the key word "potentially" as in potentially gets you into millions of homes. just co you're tucked away in the back corner of a virtual store doesn't mean you can start paying the down payments on the gazebo extension. You've still got to be found and chosen from the massive amount of stuff listed.
Its the real groovy tressle tables of doom syndrome, although at least this time its indexed and searchable and not just dumped out there in the middle of the store.It's not a trend, it's a retail fact
its a retail fact that is a worrying trend in shopping. one big player that takes all the business and all the profit is not a good thing for any industry or society, cos then they pretty much can dictate the rules. you must have noticed the reduction in diversity of shops on your recent return to nz. every shopping mall has exactly the same stores selling exactly the same products. that makes for a dull hopping experience. I acknowledge the good in itunes but you should also acknowledge the bad, cos its not all good.