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My usual incisive column on Mr Baysting's email is here.
that's not your best work mark.
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A significant chunk of the human race is breaching that copyright if this is true.
I don't think you understand the conditions of copyright.
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My usual incisive column
look out ahead mark, there's a low overpass which might clip the top off your ego mate :)
I'm hoping there's an element of self depreciating irony in your sell hype, but with you Ive learned not to make such assumptions. -
"recent apra newsletter" link,
that was a link copied from the email from apra where he talks about CFF and gives a link to their site. I should have edited it properly though.
I should have stated that I was referring to a members email too. It may have been released for public consumption too somewhere.I think I mentioned it before buy I wasn't impressed with Arthur's grasp on thing technical or internet in recent Q&A from apra in chch.
he really munched some points and this stuff is very complicated and confusing for many and its important that representatives know their stuff backwards. he didn't appear to, ant healey does a better job of it.
its also important to remember than while it's tempting to smash these people down for miss steps and hate em for it it's partly cos this is such unknown territory an they're trying to find the best way forward as shown by public acknowledgement by all parties that prosecution on accusation is not on and Campbell's acknowledgment that a third part should be involved, quite possibly because of issues raised by CFF.I don't think any one should try and portray Ant Healey or Chris Hocquard or Campbell Smith as satan. They're trying to figure a fair way forward with their customer base in mind.
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but could you please check your links before posting
Sorry bout that 3410. I have been having link problems to comments before in that they do work in preview but not on the actual page. no idea why unfortunately.
which ones were off?
just had a quick check of today's stuff and they all work for me
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Hi matthew, welcome.
Singing to friends is probably legal
not probably, it is legal, no probably about it, the copyright notice says public performance, private gatherings are totally fine. there's no excuse for forwarding an argument that phone companies could be asked to monitor happy birthday calls if we follow the same lines as what s92a asks of ISPs. anyone who understands and knows a little about copyright knows its a rubbish argument but then most people do not know much about copyright,
but obviously a phone company can't know whether you are friends, how many people are listening, or whether it's a commercial song-a-gram which, as I understand it, could be deemed public performance and therefore copyright infringement.
just doesn't follow. you're bogging your argument down with silly side extremes. Why don't you stick to the solid bits.
like Campbell saying there's no need for fines for wrongful accusations cos there won't be any. you can easily argue" well if there won't be any wrongful accusations why would you oppose fines for them. you've nothing to worry about etc".I really shouldn't write hurried responses during my afternoon tea break.
you should look at how you present your case too. I dislike the RIANZ talk bollocks approach. you edited your post mis quoting the flipping burgers thing but you kept the intent of it without anything to back it up.
you've got good concerns to be going on with but smearing the opponent isn't one of them. why would they talk to you with that approach?(via email)
I mentioned earlier email was not as reliable as it should be. phone is easy.
Rianz number is Ph: (09) 360 5085postal still works too.
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The illogicality of the sentiment, and the implication that those who argue against the proposition have some evil motive.
I don't read that into it at all. I think its a defensive position to comments made that apra and the artists represented by it are pro prosecution on accusation. he's saying "why would you think were were that evil" and is obviously offended by the inference that he would personally be for that? That seems a pretty fair reaction to being accused of something you don't believe in and wouldn't push for personally.
I think everyone I know is anti "guilt up on accusation" but that doesn't mean they're for the other things CFF are pushing or against measures been taken at ISP level to stem uncontrolled distribution of their material.
It looks like one side is trying to find a solution and the other vocal side is trying to smash every attempt made to move in that direction.It would be nice if there was a group in the middle somewhere.
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But Arthur's still wrong about the FAC.
Authur quotes another statement by them which I can't find on their site.
A statement from the FAC released this week says: “Google is hoping to bring to heel the last remaining outpost of resistance to the idea that music on the internet should be free – the creators of that music, the artists themselves. . . we want all artists to have more control of their music.”
I agree it is misleading to use CAF as backing up S92A. It isn't clear from their website or the quoted text what their position on those sort of measures are. They don't address it directly. They just say more control of their music which could stop at issues with Labels or go further to all issues.
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from linked response to apra letter,
Ant Healey ... this is an open letter to you......
Please, we can have a meeting to talk about this stuff. Artists have a legitimate grievance about copyright infringement but we need to solve that problem in a way that protects public rights or we will do harm to respect for artistic rights.
There is no need to continue with this approach. It's not working.
Call me on 021 02963595 to talk this over. I'll even buy you a coffee.Best Regards,
Matthew Hollowayor matthew could call Ant.
anthony healy 0800692772 ex 710
its free too and he's pretty easy to get in touch with.
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mark harris you should write CFF's press, at least your stuff is consistent.