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  • recordari,

    Hmm, that was a bit off the chart. I'll blame Sunday morning-itis. Sometimes the world doesn't get in for a bit. The waves have come ashore at many places, as no doubt everyone knows.
    Civil Defence.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Paul Litterick,

    So, is anyone still doubting the value of National Radio for civil defence information?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report

  • Lucy Stewart,

    So, is anyone still doubting the value of National Radio for civil defence information?

    Dunedin surfers?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Threadjack: I hope you are all off the coast and listening to National Radio right the fuck now.

    Well, Lucy, I'd like to think that in a situation like this every broadcaster would take their civil defence role seriously -- and not seeing (or hearing) any evidence that isn't the case.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Lucy Stewart,

    Well, Lucy, I'd like to think that in a situation like this every broadcaster would take their civil defence role seriously -- and not seeing (or hearing) any evidence that isn't the case.

    TV 3 were still showing televangelists when I checked, actually...but, dude, it was more that NatRad is the a) official emergency broadcaster b) what I was listening to at the time c) relevant to this thread. It wasn't a slur on anyone else.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Lucy:

    One of the disadvantages of having a partner in the rail industry is that his work cell has been going off (it seems like) every other minute with a text update.

    And am I the only person who'd like to kick a few rubber neckers in the slats? Oy and vey...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Just thinking,

    So far it seems the warnings and modelling have gone well.

    It helps of course that it's not been massive.

    My thoughts to now move to Chile and the ex-pat community here.

    What will Pat Robertson say?

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    Building a better world...?
    Lest we forget that the rush to implement new technology (and higher profits...) has its victims:
    Apple admits child labour used on iPods & iPhones

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic,

    What will Pat Robertson say?

    Or Jerry Falwell for that matter. Then again, he can't say much because he's buried in the ground now.

    You may want to wash your ears out after listening to this.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    So, is anyone still doubting the value of National Radio for civil defence information?

    Dunedin surfers?

    Yeah, got half woken up by a text (new tech) at 7.30 this morning which basically said: turn on your radio (old tech).

    Spent the rest of the morning with one ear tuned to NatRad while pottering around the house and wondering how far above sea level we actually are, and how quickly I could run up Mount Vic with a baby in my arms.

    So not me. But NatRad listed more than a couple of events that got called off. Better safe than sorry, I guess. And they had a roving reporter who talked to a couple of people down in Mission Bay who didn't realise anything was going on until the reporter told them.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Ross Mason,

    So, is anyone still doubting the value of National Radio for civil defence information?

    I happened to be awake at about 6-15am and turned on the TV to watch some of the last of the Winter Olympics and some football. During the breaks in the next half hour I did the usual male channel surf from 1 to the end. I did this two or three times until finally hitting Sky News Channel and lo, apparently NZ was in a state of emergency and a Tsunami was on the way.

    This was about 3 minutes to 7. Cruised back to bed to listen and to find our mate Sean chatting......what? I thought it was sunday???? Is it monday already?????

    Then the news and the beginning of a reasonable programme dedicated to finding out and giving Joe Public info.

    After a while I went back to the box and could still see nothing on ANY of the NZ TV channels. And then... whats this? Yes, a banner on TV1 informing me that there was breaking news.

    What staggers me is that there was 12 hours notice from the earthquake. It is sunday morning, the nation is sleeping in, those watching the various rugby and Football games - and the Olympics - and the others got no inkling - in the time I was watching.

    Surely, if such an emergency is happening, what is so hard to ask cable and the Freee to Airs to advertise the situation across all channels??? The kids watching Nicolodeon would have told their Mum and Dad I bet ya.

    I s'pose it might have screwed their ratings if they were all instructed to go and watch TV1 or - Dog forbid - LISTEN to RNZ!!!

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1590 posts Report

  • Ross Mason,

    What will Pat Robertson say?

    It was that bastard Allende that caused this!!! His ghost that is....

    Thank Pat's god that the CIA was around to fix it!!! "Copper is hard to find these days and at least the US of A has a reliable souce down thar!"

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1590 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    It was that bastard Allende that caused this!!! His ghost that is....

    more 9/11 conspiracy theories then...
    9/11, 1973 that is....

    while channel surfing myself, I had the misfortune to see a brief segment of Geraldo on Focks TV - trying to get someone to say the earthquake (and the whole ring of fire) might have something to do with global warming, later I saw some of Mike Yardley on CTV, what a pair of sanctimonious, smug wastes of carbon - I despair for humanity at times...

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • Just thinking,

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report

  • Just thinking,

    Hone Carter said it well when he complimented Sean Plunkett & Sean did well in including the whole of RNZ.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    So, is anyone still doubting the value of National Radio for civil defence information?

    I'm beginning to ask myself what the point is of putting out civil defence information at all after molesting my eyeballs with this:

    Despite a Civil Defence blitz on radio, internet and television warning of the risk of 1m to 3m waves hitting the east and west coasts, many New Zealanders refused to let their beach plans for the last day of summer be interrupted.

    Others went to the coast specifically to see the tsunami.

    One Auckland beachgoer said it was a case of crying wolf. "There's been so many warnings you think, 'Ah, it's just another one'."

    In context, I know this is a ghastly thing to say but I wish a couple of dozen fuck-wit looky-loos had been killed yesterday -- but I guess then it would have all been the Gummints fault. I can understand why John Carter is rather pissed off... David and I have elderly friends (one with advanced MS) who live on Lyall Parade -- if they could see a tsunami front out their front window, they're dead. That simple.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    Well, one guy got a bit bruised...

    Will that do?

    And you know what would now be happening of anyone had died. More breast beating and finger pointing than a gorrilla convention held in a '70's disco. 'oh woe! woe! why didn't someone do something to save those members of my family who decided to jump the safety fence clearly marked 'Tsunami. Do not cross' and have a picnic on the beach! Heads must roll!'

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • recordari,

    It does rather seem some people are determined to become recipients of the Darwin Award. "I got drowned by a 2 metre Tsunami, but my YouTube video has a million hits!"

    Speaking with friends in the Singapore expat community, where many had been on vacation in some of the worst hit areas during the boxing day Tsunami, the speed and ferocity of the wave when it comes is no laughing matter. The survival stories were great to hear, but sufficient warning and the opportunity to get on higher ground would have been their preference, without exception. The ones who lost family or friends would not be impressed by people who had the warnings, but chose to ignore them.

    The earthquake preceding the Boxing Day Tsunami was 9.1. Chile's was 8.8. The Samoan Earthquake was 8.3. Yes I know there are many variables, but the threat was genuine.

    The funny thing about Crying Wolf stories is they tend not to end well.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Paul Litterick,

    More breast beating and finger pointing than a gorrilla convention held in a '70's disco.

    Roflnami.

    They would have been hauled onto Nine to Noon so that Kathryn Ryan could speak to them in her extra-sympathetic tone of voice.

    She has just been speaking to someone who has a daughter in Chile, a daughter who has not been harmed but is hard to contact at the moment. The lives of 700 Chileans are as nothing to the phone problems of one young New Zealander.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    One hopes that while keeping Radio NZ going - they'll be making sure this SIS Mole problem doesn't reoccur...

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    (by the way Kyle I honestly can't remember Te Papa charging entrance to the national collection, which is what Russell was talking about. A bit of a reading fail there, given Russell made no assertions about touring blockbusters.)

    That's not a reading fail. Te Papa isn't an argument for a 100% government funded radio station focusing on a particular bit of culture. Te Papa isn't 100% govt funded, it gets a significant portion of its funding from sponsorship and entrance fees.

    That doesn't directly translate to radio, but it wouldn't be completely out of this world to suggest that a company might sponsor a particular concert or series of concerts on the radio, for the privilege of having their name mentioned when those things are promoted and at their beginning and end.

    Do I have to do everything?

    ...

    So let's say $47 million all up, and Concert with 10% of the radio funding and 5% of the audience (which probably compares favourably with Pacific Radio and iwi radio), and the values it adds to the NZSO etc. It's not outrageous.

    Yes, those figures look better Russell. Cheers.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia,

    That doesn't directly translate to radio, but it wouldn't be completely out of this world to suggest that a company might sponsor a particular concert or series of concerts on the radio, for the privilege of having their name mentioned when those things are promoted and at their beginning and end.

    For many years, Texaco sponsored live broadcasts from the Metropolitan Opers which Concert FM was quite happy to re-broadcast despite the filthy taint of sponsorship. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Alien Lizard (anag),

    if its good enough for The BBC
    well we should just follow suit

    The BBC has refused to comment on recent reports that it will close two radio stations and scale back its web presence in order to save about $965 million Cdn.

    The Arrrgh Complex • Since Jan 2010 • 158 posts Report

  • Just thinking,

    The SIS is surely redundant in the age of facebook?

    This was a publically broadcasted interview of a publically avalible book. That kind of hard work is what we love about the old state sector.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report

  • Phil Brownlee,

    For many years, Texaco sponsored live broadcasts from the Metropolitan Opers which Concert FM was quite happy to re-broadcast despite the filthy taint of sponsorship.

    ...after editing out most, if not all of the references to the sponsor's name.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2008 • 25 posts Report

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