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Hard News: This is Your TV on Drugs

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  • greenlove33, in reply to Russell Brown,

    That really is good news. Pretty sure Barry O was a stoner in his youth. Be nice to see the federal
    pressure come off the situation in the States. And then American drug policy easing off its grip on the rest of the world. South America are already bucking lol.

    Centered • Since Aug 2009 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to BenWilson,

    But does the FBI go after pot anyway? Seems a bit small-potatoes for them.

    Large scale interstate commerce? Or is that the province of the DEA? Why does America have so many police forces, anyway?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2380 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to greenlove33,

    huff and puff...

    ...and then American drug policy easing off
    its grip on the rest of the world.

    I imagine they'll ease off cannibinoids if they can ramp up the spread of antidepressants, SSRIs etc - what a country create the stress, supply the 'cure', happy PharmaCorporations all around. Despite the fact that all the mass killing shooters in recent years seem to have been on psychotropic / psychiatric 'medication' - still it may mean that Obama gets the gun control he wants.
    It's odd (but not surprising) how a country formed by a revolution of citizens against controlling government interference, then fears, and spies on its own people...
    I was unmoved by his crocodile tears at the weekend - the shootings in Connecticut are an appalling tragedy, but Obama's drones have killed more civilians and children in a single speculative signature strike than that, and regularly.
    But then again the US regime salutes the double standard - the Stars and Stripes and the False Flag, it seems...
    I feel a sea change coming, but its final nature eludes me as yet...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7480 posts Report Reply

  • greenlove33, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I would have no problems with SSRIs etc if they actually worked as a medication. A lot of studies have shown them to be a placebo, another lot of studies have been paid for by the Big Pharma companies to try and show their effectiveness.

    Even for the small percentage of people SSRIs work for there is a hellish ‘discontinuation syndrome’ or fiending withdrawal in laymans terms, something most GPs never seem to mention. NZ has a soaring rate of ‘antidepressant’ prescription. It’s pretty concerning.

    I’ve always thought psychotherapy or talk therapy to be a better alternative to just drugging an entire population like the USA. Ritalin for kids, SSRIs for adults, there’s a dangerous medicine for every citizen.

    I don’t think medicinal cannabis is the cure for depression etc, but if you come home from work and drink 6 beers or a bottle of wine to unwind for purely medicinal purposes of course, I would argue having a few quiet tokes as a consenting adult will pay you out a lot less the next morning and in the long run. Having the choice would be nice.

    Ive got my fingers crossed about the sea change happening in regards to drug policy. We probably need to spend some time with our older politicians on R and D(retirement and death lol), that should sort it out. Unfortunately that will also sort me out as well, so the sooner the better for some positive changes in drug law!!

    Centered • Since Aug 2009 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to greenlove33,

    Even for the small percentage of people SSRIs work for there is a hellish ‘discontinuation syndrome’ or fiending withdrawal in laymans terms, something most GPs never seem to mention.

    4 of my immediate family have necessarily* been on SSRIs for severe clinical depression - 2 still are.
    In our experience
    a)they work, and work well - once the right one is prescribed (this varies for each individual.)
    b) GPs and hospital pyschiatrists have been excellent in detailing risks and possible discomforts, and ameliorating those that occurred.
    c)talk-therapy turned out to be useless for all 4-
    d) without SSRIs, I would no longer have a parent or 3 of my sibs (one did die, but from cancer 5 years ago.)

    *all had tried suicide or intended to : none of them could work or be happy in any way (normal for severe depression.)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • greenlove33, in reply to Islander,

    Im really sorry to hear that Islander, I think for people with severe depression if the correct drugs are prescribed and they work, that is a good thing. I am more concerned with the wave of Prozac etc being prescribed for people as an antidote for normal glumness.

    I would prefer to see CBT and psychotherapy being used in the first instance, and then medication tried, rather than the reverse. Talk about problems rather than just opening a prescription pad.

    I look at medical marijuana as offering some options for patients in pain currently being forced to take synthetic, highly addictive opiates such as Vicodin and Oxycontin where a few puffs of cannabis will do the same job. I really like the professional medical marijuana clinics like in LA. A clean, sterile and safe place to buy your medicine.

    It will be interesting to see how the US Federal Govt react to the States easing their cannabis laws! #peace

    Centered • Since Aug 2009 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to greenlove33,

    Im really sorry to hear that Islander, I think for people with severe depression if the correct drugs are prescribed and they work, that is a good thing. I am more concerned with the wave of Prozac etc being prescribed for people as an antidote for normal glumness.

    Thanks Nick - and I thoroughly concur with your following comment.
    Pain/sadness/disappointments/glumness are all part of being a human*, and most of us learn to cope with them in our different ways. But severe depression is another sort of beast altogether - I've been alongside people I love, and watched, hapless, as it hollowed them out into shells of themselves...I am very grateful that there are such meds as Venlafaxine/Effexor (for instance - whanau have been on several different ones) that gave me back people I very deeply care for-

    *As someone who was born & continues dysthymiac, I've found walking, the sea, music , good whisky & wine (and especially, reading and basic non-religious meditation) a sufficiency of resources
    without any other drug-taking ( dysthymia isnt really treatable with drugs anyway - tho I wonder about the hormone oxytocin (which I dont produce...))

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to greenlove33,

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    It will be interesting to see how the US Federal Govt react to the States easing their cannabis laws! #peace

    I believe Bill Maher once asked, which stoner is more dangerous?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5312 posts Report Reply

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