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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Farmer Green,
ou do mean the “achievers ” don’t you? Elite has some other connotations.
I was replying to Bart. Mate.
Thanks Geoff!
After a rocky few months, I'm ready to -urrrm, engage again?
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to Bart Janssen,
I wish we could see more of the elite that we have in this country, maybe the kids wouldn’t think so little of NZ.
Actually Bart - the 'kids' I know, family kids, go away for adventures & learning and - majorly, come back home...with increased skills they probably couldnt have obtained here ( for all kinds of reasons)- one and all, they appreciate our educational system (not entirely, not unthinkingly) & - especially-our "do it! You can!" ethos. And the fact that, while we do have hierarchies, they are not crushingly exclusive.
This applies to your comment also Hilary-
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Hard News: Jonesing, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,
Me too!
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Hard News: Event Season, in reply to kiwicmc,
For me, the shear awe
There *is* a difference btwn. shear & sheer, folks...
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Up Front: Professional Counsel, in reply to Jackie Clark,
What I do know is this: it’s only been 3 weeks since the diagnosis, and this could be a short road, or a long road, but either way, at some point along it I could sure do with someone professional to talk to. That won’t be covered by insurance, and neither, in this case, should it be. But I’m willing to bet that it will help. Emma i
V. sorry to hear this Jackie...I lost my best non-family friend on January 19th this year. She'd had a couple of run-ins with lymphoma before, but knew that was the end.
I am v. lucky: I have people who are trained to counsel the ill & bereaved in the family, and while I didnt need to ask for their help, they let me know talk-help was freely available...
I am even luckier: I have 2 beaches I love - and love walking - & good foodie friends & wine when wanted-
I miss Jude a lot (we were neighbours & friends for nearly 38 years) but -lives end. For me, when we die, that's it...and the best way I can honour my memories
of a person I love who has died, is to keep living the best way I can. -
Up Front: Good Counsel, in reply to Isabel Hitchings,
I wonder if there would be an increase in uptake if counselling was (re) offered after a couple of months of medication.
That is a really interesting query Isabel-
Anybody know any stats for this?
All I know from family experience, that it SO much easier for the 2nd person to ask for help - being informed by previous familial experience.There was also the family larger experience: one of my uncles was a pyschopaediatric nurse - we knew that people could be born brain-damaged and it was just chance-
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Up Front: Good Counsel, in reply to Islander,
(talking as somone who, you know, held her mother while she was bloody close to dying-)
That was when she was on citalopram...she developed hyponaetremia due to a change in dose...
good people all -I think we are all agreed that whatever helps is what we need, and there is no one answer for that need. I would support - totally- a move for
talk-therapy/psychotherapy/counselling *for those it works for.* Otherwise - go for the drugs!Incidentally: I am a dysthymic- a 'permanant Blue Monday' person. There isnt anything you can do about this condition except
* rejoice in being the only 8-letter/1 vowel word in the English language!
*laugh-occaisionally-for the entire stupidity of our kind of intelligence AND!
*really enjoy drinking alcohol! -
Up Front: Good Counsel, in reply to Lilith __,
for counselling, it has been cancelled at least once in the past (in the late 90s, IIRC) and then quietly reinstated, because there is a need for it .
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Yo Lilith - I think there must be a difference btwn. WINZ *disability*allowance and
and assistance allowance.Angus Maxwell: I go by family experience. I've seen what works. And, I've sure as shit seen what doesnt work. Maybe - research a leetle more?
In those who are severely depressed - the drugs work. And -that!- frankly is all I care about. Because - until the drugs start working - the talk therapy/counselling
sure as shit doesnt even begin to connect (talking as somone who, you know, held her mother while she was bloody close to dying-) -
Up Front: Good Counsel, in reply to Emma Hart,
Kia ora Emma – 3 of my sisters, and my beloved mother, have been on SSRIs for the
past 7 to 10 years (except for the sister who died of pancreatic cancer in 2007, they live well & work when they need to.) My mother is on Venlafaxine (started on citalopam, that was a disaster): I am unsure what my 2 remaining sisters take – they’re both nurses, and take what they have researched & find personally effective.
ALL FOUR were offered talk therapy/counselling as soon as their depressions were diagnosed…and they were all in the Canterbury area at the time (except for Mary E. who was in Oz at first diagnosis.) As my mother cheerfully will tell people who come to her (because she is not only well – she thrives!) “If only I had those the unjudgmental informed listeners when I lost babies…!"**Venlafaxine costs the taxpayer approximately $690 A MONTH PER RECIPIENT-
my brother & myself have emergency plans to sell stuff if it should ever become chargeable-
my mother found counselling – interesting. It brought up a lot of past history (she had 9 pregnancies & 6 live children, and lost 2 husbands – I know, careless, careless-)and with skilled listening, and low-key suggestions – like, like – OK, you had 4 kids under 5, and then your beloved Dad died- do you think there was any relation between this? That possibly your Maori Dad thought you’d re-established his line? **
I dunno. I’ve never been severely depressed. I know it is a severe, acutely painful, life-threatening disease. All I know is – my family members who have been so afflicted, have been routinely offered the counselling as well as the SSRIs…
I dont want to bring this up, but feel I must.
With the exception of my mother & self, and one brother – all my sibs & their partners are involved with medicine…**Neither of my Mother’s brothers bred (and it was very clear, early on, that they never would.)
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I really wanted to respond to this post BUT
*I cant quote from it!
Islander, who disagrees with the idea that counselling isnt routinely offered - as opposed SSRIs- having unfortunately large family experience in these matters-