Posts by chris
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...& watching on TV/ liberally certified films. So when the kids get caught trying pot, they're suspended/expelled from school. In the anti cannabis argument, the exploitation of the protection of childrens' development cop out, is hollow.
ah, the hypocrisy. It's enough to make you want to hang yourself.
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"It's a serious drug. And it's very clear that long-term usage has very long-term effects ... it's not the social drug of the 60s any more ... it is a drug that causes serious harm," Detective Inspector Stuart Mills said.
"And it's very clear that long-term usage has very long-term effects"
Pulitzer.
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is now more than four times stronger than it was when ESR last tested it in 1996."
I'm with Ben. Assuming it is stronger, we can use less to get the same result. ie. Cheaper, less money lost temporarily to the black market. Basically all I'm hearing again is;
"It's stronger and kiwis are too stupid to self moderate"
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The thing I've never understood about the police attitude to gangs and drugs is that we can be sure that on any given day that those often very clearly marked buildings are dealing all manner of drugs and are most likely breaking any number of other laws on the premises, and yet busts are so infrequent.....
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I've got to hand it to you, that's an inspired and imperative post nz native. Great Ideas.
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If i may restructure your post there Kyle:
on the Otago University campus
50 people simultaneously lighting up in separate areas of a city
ie. 50 separate areas.
need to provoke a response from authority
to encourage old ladies to call the police,
ie. within noseshot of people who look as if they may respond accordingly.
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The latter of those is, of course, dependant on the fact that drugs are illegal and without that income, from illegal drugs, the gangs will lose their viability. Stamping out the gangs by legalising drugs is a no-brainer in my thinking.
I agree totally Steve. My logic here is that in reality New Zealand already has unofficial decriminalization of possession of useable quantites of marijuana (today is J-day no?). The law does not correspond with this unspoken reality. Putting pressure on the powers that be to change this outmoded possession law (via excessive strain on police resources), will necessitate reassessment of the laws of supply and growth etc
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the street smoking a joint... you won't be free for long, you mark my words
Every single time I've been busted with pot, they confiscate and nothing more is said or done. Many police smoke. I was free, am and will remain free, because the chances of being imprisoned for lighting up in public are slim, made all the slimmer if 49 others are doing the same at the same time. this is not idealization. this is simply how it is. I guess you have never been caught in possession.
I am a pragmatist and you are an idealist.
50 people simultaneously lighting up in separate areas of a city, both publicly and visibly, on a regular basis to encourage old ladies to call the police, will put massive stress on the resources available. and as wrong as it is, the police have more sway with the Government than the people.
It's not that piracy is legal in China. It's that it's viral and the populace is encouraged by others' disobedience. The expectation that 550,000 people can pass a referendum shows little pragmatism unless there is already significant visibility of the reality.
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Your attitude highlights why it's so easy for politicians and lawmakers in New Zealand Steve.
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I really wish I could agree with that. Problem is that the logic of large numbers of people breaking the law = this law is not working, escapes the average politician. The response to such civil disobedience is more likely to be "this problem is getting worse,
I can smell your fear from here Steve, and the politicians love the obedience you proffer to their laws, you assist them with your words. Your insinuation that smokers will all be locked away and more prisons will be built to incarcerate 550,000 people is risible. Give the law kudos. And enjoy the long and the arduous.
Let's see how this massive turnout on the mining issue pans out, maybe we are seeing a return to a strong protest movement in this country.
I'm not suggesting protest, I'm suggesting doing what is natural, regularly, quietly, without fanfare, to be seen not just by the politicians, or the police but by everyone. Total disenfranchisement.
Regimental protest is the best method in dealing with some issues and not others. , "Let's see how this turns out before doing that" is an ineffective approach to simultaneous problems.