Posts by chris
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I'd buy that. Is there any data on any other countries?
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goggles.
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Maybe they should step aside and let someone who's better qualified handle it for them, Is this why JK wants to up GST to 15%
It's barely anymore difficult than distinguishing between the two phenomenon from males.
Real question worth pondering is why is one ok and the other not? is it something related to the chemical content? -
nice gravatar, all class.
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I agree with Isabel. In answer to your question Emma, I'd have to say, never. It should never be illegal for an 'adult' to look at a picture of something it is legal to do.
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It may just get us back on topic just thinking (apologies again Emma)... I'm guessing that this clown's "natural law" is related to the one whereby females fantasizing about group sex are just gagging to be raped.
Is there some word to describe this act of saying the exact opposite of what you mean?
''In some respects it actually violates the natural law upon which the equality of all human beings is grounded and by which it is guaranteed.''
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Weatherspoon...I guess a freudian nod to an argument against capitalist justice.
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Well at the very least Kyle, I think ensuring Tony was forced to participate in a non-violence program rather than leaving that decision in the hands of his parole officer would have been a start.
He pleaded guilty to injuring with reckless disregard - which carries a maximum penalty of five years imprisonment - and was sentenced by Judge Jan Doogue to nine months supervision, 300 hours community service and a $10,000 fine. If his parole officer deems it necessary, Veitch must also attend a Stop Violence programme.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2339278/Veitch-sentenced
2002-2005 was years of domestic abuse, but you are right Kyle, there are certainly more serious cases out there. That's what concerns me.
Personally I feel a message should be sent whereby acts of violence are taken more seriously than preserving people's reputations. I feel that violence should be dealt with by the police and courts, with no allowance made for under the table deals, and that any attempts to subvert this process shouldn't be tolerated. But foremost as you just said; "get the offender into a programme." Not just threaten them with it.
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words have meanings
In China it seems they are whatever you want them to be
That's quite apt Sacha, I didn't think much of using the word 'blackmail' at the time, but, (while still in talkback rant mode), try this on for size;
A New Zealand (recently) ex-colleague at my company was last December offered this ultimatum by his 34 y/o student;
She would tell the school they'd be in a relationship for the past two years unless he paid her $1000 (NZ). He paid, she told.
As the whole exchange had occurred verbally, the admin refused to address the extortion issue, she remains a student. There was no going to the police as she is significantly richer than him. I'd classify that as blackmail and/ or extortion in most locales. If my use of the word seemed careless. My apologies to all concerned. I just don't see those kind of scenarios as that far out of leftfield in a capitalist justice system.
As you were.
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O, yes cripes.It was Sacha, but I love you, I was a jumpy goat yesterday and accused you of throwing horses at me, so no problem.
Significantly in Veitch's case, I think it's safe to say it wouldn't have even gone near a court (as was the case for a fair old while) had someone not outed them in the News. I'm perhaps naive enough to assume that it's not an isolated incident.
If you prefer a system where people are making deals to bypass the courts, I'd have to agree that that's a sound method to reduce domestic violence statistics in New Zealand, and free up the courts system. (which can only be a good thing, no?)
But, honestly I don't think it does much to address the endemic violence in New Zealand.
It's a huge leap I'll acknowledge Recordari, but The main problem is, if anyone at all were to follow Tony and Kirsten's example then we won't hear about it and the violence won't be addressed.
ie. there was no "attempting to subvert the course of justice" charge brought. It was overlooked.
If Clayton Weatherspoon, had only made a couple of non lethal stabs, paid for his victim to be sewn up and reached a compensation deal, which would result in Clayton still walking around having avoided the courts altogether. Would you be living in a safer country? Because after all how far was Veitch from committing a homicide when he broke Kirsten's vertabrae?
I apologize if that tasteless example causes offence. I admire your forgiveness and empathy towards Veitch. But I can't see how creating a domestic violence black market is going to make things less violent.