Posts by Michael Fitzgerald
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Who didn't sign that non-binding UN doco?
"We have made some study of overseas circumstances, and while it is far from complete, by reference to the history and development of Canada, Australia, and the United States of America, it appears that aboriginal autonomy was more thoroughly suppressed in New Zealand than in those comparable countries. Parihaka provides an illustration of this."
"In our opinion, that was one of the messages of Te Whiti o Rongomai and Tohu Kakahi. Much the same was to be sought by Mahatma Gandhi in India and, later still, by Martin Luther King junior in the United States of America. It is probably no accident that each of these leaders taught of divine law. Effectively, they were jurists promoting higher constitutional norms. "
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Russell
Parihaka had rape and death in imprisonment (without trial). There are comparisons in political ambition, soverignty, and the excuse of looking for arms as a pretext for invasion (a suitable word for the actions at Ruatoki). Tikowarus/von Tempskys Sword.
Creon made ref of the "real" it's worth taking a few Maori concepts (I'll muddle through as best as I can). The future is tied to the past, it is behind us (I'm not doing well here).
To my mind, Maori future is scientific - like Ice Cores from Antartica show 500K years of climate & this inturn is used to predict the future (that's as good as I can do right now).Another worthy comparison would be the 50 stolen weapons (including pistols from a personal armoury of 150 & 100 still not)recovered in Christchurch from someone "known" to police in yesterdays Press. This vs an invasion for 3 firearms in Ruatoki?
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History never repeats?
There were also rumours that Rua was actively working for a German victory. His opposition to Maori volunteering for service convinced Commissioner of Police John Cullen and Minister of Native Affairs William Herries to act.
From the above NZ History link. NZ Police acting (& Killing) based on rumours.
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"that Te Tiriti o Waitangi was signed in 1840." But not by Tuhoe.
In 1916 two Maori had been shot and killed by police attempting to arrest the Tuhoe leader Rua Kenana at Maungapohatu, in part for his active discouragement of Maori recruitment. The government did not want a repetition of this bloodshed.
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/first-world-war/conscientious-objection/maori-objection
Who is Tame Iti?
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Creon thoughtful & a nice reality check
"As for my “ludicrous yardstick.” The point I was making is that there is no terrorism going on here. If there were, we’d know about it. Like, the hunters might be dead, not scared. Like, Bomber wouldn’t be allowed into the dumb-arse meeting and, if he were allowed in and then told all, um, he’d be dead too. Or at least regretting his big mouthed ways. Rather than receiving terse missives from cretins who take themselves too seriously."
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Did either strike you as a Terrorist?
Not me.
We should remeber the vid on Campbell was from a specific action of occupation by Tuhoe that has since ceased. -
I think James has a pont here. That it is not conspiracy per se but acquiescence from an environment of fear.
"The architects of amerika's Patriot Act set the method of play on this. They knew that all they had to do was keep the draft Act up to date and eventually they would run into the ideal circumstance which would cause the normally libertarian amerikan public to drop their guard."
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1984
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Gerry backs Labour power policy, maybe John Key "leading a Labour Govt" is rubbing off?
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Flavell Said that's exactly what has happened in the past