Posts by giovanni tiso
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Isn't Andrew trying to constructively tease out a counter argument?
No, he's concern trolling. Next!
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oh, you probably mean Giovanni
That man can overact even when he leans his elbow on a bartop. How does he do it?
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And... pretty ferocious this from the resident Herald cartoonist.
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Here's some more people who, whilst not pre-empting the inquests to come, cast some serious doubts on the safety of the operation ("either the warning system was inadequate, or it was not sufficiently monitored"). I thought the final quote was telling:
"The international mining community should band together to make sure safety standards are good for New Zealand miners"
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where does the “1 hour 50 minutes” come from?
Yesterday's article on the possibility of an early rescue had that timeline - I think it's linked to upthread.
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If you want to get all technocratic ask yourself how it can be that the alarm at the mine wasn't raised until 1 hour and 50 minutes after the explosion? Who was on duty above-ground?
I've been struggling with that from day two, layman knowledge and all. It still strikes me as the most damning aspect of the whole thing - how were miners not required to touch base at regular intervals with those outside, and was there anybody outside, safety equipment at the ready? We know there are two people who almost made it - you'd think that they could at least have saved them.
Wow, James, your racist, regressive jibes are so subtle.
Insofar as 19th century Pakeha culture produced some of the earliest labour struggles and victories in the world, I think you may be reading what James said quite unfairly there.
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Hard News: Where nature may win, in reply to Islander,
is there a fund we can donate to?
Yes - see here.
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Except that, as we've heard, they don't actually know for certain where any of them were working.
Not for certain, but they had a rough idea. And again, without putting too fine a point on it, felled on the spot - as both of the survivors initially were - as opposed to huddled in one or more groups near fresh air bases, would tell the story.
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Regarding cause-of-death, *if* they died of asphyxiation and *if* the bodies weren't then damaged in the second explosion, it should be possible to tell
I was meaning something far simpler - if they died within minutes of the first explosion, you'd be able to tell simply by where they are in the mine, ie in the places where they were known to be working at the time.
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Also, it seems likely that the real facts on the fate of the people down there might be scanty.
If they died of asphyxiation after the first explosion, the story may be told by the position in which they are found - and grim as it may sound, I imagine it would be of some comfort to the families.